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The Rational Male (edició 2013)

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"The Rational Male is a rational and pragmatic approach to intergender dynamics and the social and psychological underpinnings of intergender relations. The book is the compiled, ten-year core writing of author/blogger Rollo Tomassi from therationalmale.com. Rollo Tomassi is one of the leading voices in the globally growing, male-focused online consortium known as the "Manosphere". Outlined are the concepts of positive masculinity, the feminine imperative, plate theory, operative social conventions and the core psychological theory behind Game awareness and "red pill" ideology. Tomassi explains and outlines the principles of intergender social dynamics and foundational reasoning behind them"--Amazon.com… (més)
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Títol:The Rational Male
Autors:Rollo Tomassi (Autor)
Informació:CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform (2013), 300 pages
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2. Bind. Læst begge. Om kvinders hypergamy og "parrings" strategier. Rollo siger, at kvinder vil altid søge beskyttelse, forsørgelse samt de bedste gener som de angiveligt finder hos muskuløse, alpha hanner. Men de kan ikke finde det nødvendigvis hos een og må evt. gå på forskellige kompromiser. Fx få afkom med alpha men få beta til at forsørge eller blive nødt til at ændre synet på beta. Kvinder er meget aktive indtil 24 og er primært interesseret i udseende og muskler. Derfra begynder de at "ramme muren" og indse at de skal skynde sig og etablere familie omkring 30.

Rollo siger at mænd ikke har samme forventninger til kærlighed og forhold som kvinder. Han taler om feminisering som noget kvinder har indlejret i samfundet og som beta mænd accepterer. Mænd og kvinder forskellige pga. testosteron og østrogen niveauer ift. libido og ønsker. Osv. Osv. Seksuel markeds værdi hos Q peaker indtil 24 og er faldende derfra mens mændenes markeds værdi peaker omkring de 40 og falder derfra bla bla ... ( )
  Molgun1468 | Apr 10, 2023 |
The trick to tolerating the tiny front was to read this in direct sunlight in the summer, as opposed to indoors in the winter. That, and caffeine, helped keep headaches and eyestrain at bay, but it’s still a challenge.

My first takeaway after finishing this is that there’s not a as much actionable information per page than there really ought to be for a book of this nature. That’s not to say Rollo is throwing things at the wall and seeing what sticks – this is well thought out. The language relies too heavily on phrases outside of our common language (manosphere) at times, but I’d venture to say that 80-90% of the theory and advice in this book, from spinning plates, to understanding and accepting “hypergamy”, is accurate and observable based on my years of dating and relationship – from teen years all the way to my mid 30s.

I realize this is cherry picking that 10-20%, but this is lifechanging - telling men in their 20s to hold off on marriage and a family, even if he’s found a quality woman who’d make a good wife/mother, is horrible advice. Sure, dating and getting laid is easier in ones 30s compared to 20s, but the quality of women one will date in their 30s vs 20s is drastically different. Not only is the dating market quite a bit different (Rollo shuns any form of online/speed dating, which is now the norm) Rollo would disagree with the concept of a ‘quality woman’ itself, and label it a myth.

RM is about 10 years old as of the time of this review, and probably conceived well before that, so it’s fair to say things have changed between now and then so I can overlook a few things, such as the current dating market. But it's not the concepts themselves that are the main issue, but how self-referential it is. When a new concept is introduced, it’s supported by an already introduced concept, and that concept gets re-explained. Overtime, the book turns into 1 big circular reference, and for that reason, it doesn’t work as something to read cover-to-cover, as many chapters feel redundant. It also contributes to the book necessitating a nearly unreadable font to stay just shy of 300 pages. There’s good ideas here, but not 400 pages worth, or whatever length a proper font would make it.

As it stands today, this is a manuscript that can perhaps be edited down into a great book, but it needs an editor to cut the fat. Should Rollo should get rid of the ‘insider’ terms, restore the font to a standard size, and accept a reality check on a few concepts that no longer hold true, there might be something here. But as it reads today, I recommend reading the first 2 chapters to understand the concepts, and then every other chapter, but making sure read both chapters 9 and 10. 9 and 10 are succinct and actionable, the best chapters of the book, so read those in full. ( )
  LonelyChampion | Jun 8, 2022 |
Tomassi makes some fair points, although I don't agree with everything he says and not much at all with the way he presents his argument. Even though he hides behind the claim that he's dishing out the unfiltered, sugar-free Cold Hard Truth, the tone at times made me question whether he was coming from a place of love and respect, or from one of bitterness. I can see why he is accused of having a chip on his shoulder towards women, though I am trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.

I'm open to the possibility that my sensibilities have been ruffled by the ugliness of the reality he describes. However, Coach [a:Corey Wayne|576172|Corey Wayne|https://s.gr-assets.com/assets/nophoto/user/u_50x66-632230dc9882b4352d753eedf9396530.png] makes a lot of the same arguments about the dynamics of dating but I don't get that icky, empty feeling reading his stuff as he seems to come instead from a place of love and respect for women and a desire to get the most out of our relationships in a way that is optimal for both parties.

There were quite a few poorly worded/structured sentences and paragraphs, and he overdid the 'blue pill, red pill' analogy. Sorry, but life's not that simple. People's motives, needs and emotions are far more complex than Tomassi would have us believe.

The 'in group' jargon and buzz words have a somewhat cult-like feel to them, unsurprising since his readership has mainly been the incel frequenters of niche online discussion forums. I have been increasingly convinced of this since following the author on Twitter and seeing how he and his fans/followers interact.

Tomassi has cleverly framed it so that anyone who dares question, challenge or oppose his theory is simply not 'red-pilled' enough by default. He has framed it so that those who don't buy into it are the 'brainwashed' chumps, too weak and beta to see or accept the 'truth'- his version of it. There is something manipulative and dishonest about that.

This is a guy trying to pull off Alpha, but he's not fooling me. Probably one of the worst books I've read recently. ( )
  the_best_words | Nov 1, 2020 |
If you are interested in this book, you are probably a man who has taken the metaphorical "red pill" - that is to say, you are questioning the values and assumptions, particularly about sex and gender, that have no doubt guided you to some disastrous point in your life and relationships - and are looking to deepen your knowledge about what to do at this point in your personal crisis. The good news is that this book will be a great help to you.

I have now read a number of books on this topic, and this is one of the few that is worth reading (I hate the self-help genre, so any book of this kind that I don't throw down in disgust must be doing something right). Its greatest strength is the mindset of the author: Tomassi is direct, practical, honest, and you never feel as though his ideas are just a way of selling you some sleazy product or "secret" formula. The best insights he has come from a) his understanding that human desire, both male and female, is inherently paradoxical, a topic that often requires him to strip away the misdirections and social conditioning that conceal that paradox and b) his emphasis on practical, rational strategies for self-improvement. I don't agree with everything he says, but "red pill" newbies will be dazzled by the various pearls of wisdom on offer here.

I do, however, have some caveats and qualifications.

First, be aware that this is not really a "book": Tomassi writes a popular and long-running blog, and much of the content for this "book" is recycled, verbatim, from his online posts. While there has been some (minor) attempt to organize this material into a coherent text, it still reads very much like a collection of blog posts that have been loosely sewn together. In my opinion they should have been a bit more honest and marketed/presented it as such.

Second, although Tomassi mentions talking to his editor at one point, and in another chapter weeds out one woman as being unsuitable for attraction due to her atrocious writing skills, his own book is riddled with basic writing mistakes. Tomassi doesn't know the difference between "compliment" and "complement" (he always uses the latter, while meaning the former), for example, and the book contains a litany of errors in which "who's" and "whose," "your" and "you're," "its" and "it's" errors sit alongside run-on sentences and various malapropisms. A few errors might be understandable, but the cumulative effect of so much bad writing really drags down the effect of the book. Maybe it's time to make that editor do some work.

Third, will authors in this genre PLEASE rely on something other than just simplistic evolutionary psychology to explain human sexual behavior?! It is such flawed assumption that cultural and social structures don't have a powerful influence on human behavior as well. Just look at Tomassi's constant references to the SMV (Sexual Market Value) of men and women, an idea that, while building on evolutionary competitiveness, is also clearly shaped by the rise of capitalism, a social condition that is historical rather than natural. The prehistoric analogies in the book are, as a result, laughable: "The earliest form of proto-Game would’ve been a sexual quid pro quo. Can’t figure out how to seduce that hot, hunter-gatherer woman in the tribe? Save her ass from being torn limb from limb by a saber tooth tiger and she’ll reciprocate her gratitude with open legs." (p.183). Nonsense. Tribal sexual structures were rigid and involuntary, meaning that men and women rarely had the ability to choose whom they married or had sex with, a condition that defines much of human history. What has changed since the 1600s is a sexual revolution, described brilliantly in Faramerz Dabhoila's The Origins of Sex, which traces how modern society has been revolutionized from a culture of necessity to the one of choice that has come to define modern Game.

To sum up, then, this "book"/collection of blog posts is a great source if you are looking for practical ways to improve yourself and learn some strategies for improving your relationships with women. You should read it alongside other classics as Neil Strauss's cautionary memoir The Game, Mystery's practical guide to picking up women, The Mystery Method, Robert Glover's No More Mr Nice Guy, and Robert Greene's The Art of Seduction. It is a book to make you a more rational male - although a truly rational male would surely next dig into some social history, particularly with regard to sexuality, and learn the basics of spelling and punctuation (all while spinning some "plates," of course). ( )
  vernaye | May 23, 2020 |
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"The Rational Male is a rational and pragmatic approach to intergender dynamics and the social and psychological underpinnings of intergender relations. The book is the compiled, ten-year core writing of author/blogger Rollo Tomassi from therationalmale.com. Rollo Tomassi is one of the leading voices in the globally growing, male-focused online consortium known as the "Manosphere". Outlined are the concepts of positive masculinity, the feminine imperative, plate theory, operative social conventions and the core psychological theory behind Game awareness and "red pill" ideology. Tomassi explains and outlines the principles of intergender social dynamics and foundational reasoning behind them"--Amazon.com

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