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1scarper
nov. 19, 2011, 5:53 am

Hi folks
Has anyone got a recommendation for a popular (ie not a text book) and up to date introduction to artificial intelligence?

2guido47
nov. 19, 2011, 6:20 am

May I second that request,

I have read the emperors new mind and the sequel.
And was wondering if something of that same quality, with updated thinking, was around.

3DugsBooks
nov. 19, 2011, 11:12 pm

I can post the obvious - I saw IBM's Watson on Jeopardy the the trivia game show. Here is a link to its official site:

http://www-03.ibm.com/innovation/us/watson/index.html

Some one is sure to write about that if it has not already been done. Apple's new IPhone4S with voice recognition and response it getting to the area I like. Imagine teaming the IPhone with a Watson, like having a conversation with a "Google search brain" no doubt. A more productive society?

http://www.apple.com/iphone/features/siri.html

From my casual reading a lot of people think autonomous satellites are the way of the future {see link}, it makes sense to me. Maybe software like that would have helped the Russian Mars moon project. Rats, that would have been neat to visit a moon of Mars.

http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-01-spacecraft.html

4timspalding
Editat: nov. 20, 2011, 1:12 am

I'd be very interested to hear too. I read a number of books in the 80s and 90s, but nothing since.

5vy0123
nov. 20, 2011, 3:54 am

There are talks on brains, minds, machines here. One of the talks explains why AI hasn't delivered. Marvin Minsky has an iTunes U course that refers to his Society of Mind first published in 1988. The speakers may have accessible webpages linking to books of interest published more recently.

6_Zoe_
nov. 20, 2011, 11:44 am

Final Jeopardy is about Watson.

7andyl
nov. 20, 2011, 12:47 pm

#3

I would just note that Siri isn't actually an iphone thing. It actually works on a big server. The iphone sends the recorded voice to the server and receives data back in return. Apple have chosen to link it to just the iphone 4S by requiring a unique ID (associated with the phone). Siri existed before the iphone and was bought up by Apple.

Of course to my mind Siri is a long way from real AI.

8DugsBooks
nov. 20, 2011, 6:34 pm

Great links #5, I hope to view a few of MIT links soon.

#7 All the easier to hook up to a Watson perhaps? I guess A.I. will arrive in increments, unless one springs forth fully formed from the forehead of a "big blue" or other supercomputer. ;-)

9andyl
nov. 21, 2011, 4:10 am

#8

Well if we are talking about strong AI, then I have my doubts that it will ever exist. Weak AI that will fool most of the people most of the time should be achievable and could be attacked in a piecemeal fashion.

10timspalding
nov. 21, 2011, 12:08 pm

I'm still not seeing the basic book here—an entertaining survey along the lines of Machinery of the Mind: Inside the New Science of Artificial Intelligence, but written recently. Does one not exist?

11scarper
nov. 24, 2011, 4:35 pm

I would have thought so, but maybe not? There's a new project for you Tim.

12timspalding
nov. 24, 2011, 9:28 pm

The book that needs to be written would be sort of the "second coming of AI." After Machinery of the Mind artificial intelligence took a very rapid tumble in attention and prestige. It's come back in the last decade, rescued more by the availability of enormous new quantities of data on the web than anything.

13DugsBooks
des. 13, 2011, 9:39 pm

Just a note here, I saw an article on quantum computing at Extreme Tech - a must have for A.I.s in a lot of SF.

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/108573-worlds-first-programmable-quantum-phot...

14guido47
des. 13, 2011, 10:50 pm

I wonder if it will follow "Moores law"?

15vy0123
Editat: des. 26, 2011, 6:03 am

By the time the ideas are collected in a book, they could be stale by about 3-years. Another place to look/join/ask is here.

The Emotion Machine is a more recent work by Minsky* who I understand was involved in imagining HAL for the film of 2001.

-- append

* author discusses consciousness and other topics

16vy0123
des. 16, 2011, 8:21 am

Perhaps a gifted writer can use the literature surveys of recent years and produce an entertaining basic read with funding if needed from kickstarter.

Another place to have a look is iRobot and another name is Rodney Brooks. Maybe you could get an interview and pointers.

17vy0123
des. 16, 2011, 8:46 am

#12. artificial intelligence took a very rapid tumble in attention and prestige

Maybe the practitioners became quants and hedge fund managers and the students abandoned their degrees to startup Google and the like.

18timspalding
des. 16, 2011, 10:08 pm

>17 vy0123:

Snort. Maybe so.

19vy0123
des. 16, 2011, 11:44 pm

20DugsBooks
Editat: gen. 28, 2012, 3:55 pm

#14  "I wonder if it will follow 'Moores law'?"

Being highly unqualified to answer that question I will put my nonexistent reputation at risk and say , after scanning several articles on what a quantum computer is, that it sounds like they are using a lot of stuff to "contain the quantums"   ;-)   in that the article makes the "chips" sound rather large at the moment.

One advantage being that in a regular chip the state can be on or off, 0 or 1 value and in the quantum computer there are 4 spin types   edit: {make that 3, I think}  which a value can exhibit.  {My interpretation, someone with actual knowledge please feel free to correct}  I am guessing the structures containing the particles with quantum states and their logic gates can be further refined and reduced in
size.  One linked article in a post above states that the quantum computer is just a continuation of Moore's Law.

21vy0123
des. 19, 2011, 11:23 pm

There's Wired magazine issue 19-01.

22DugsBooks
gen. 26, 2012, 10:28 pm

I just finished a chapter in Kaku's Physics of the Future ,published in 2011, titled "Future of AI" which had the following recomendations the Age of Spiritual Machines and The Singularity Is Near by Kurzweil . Kaku calls Kurzweil "the spokesperson for the singularity".

Kaku also quotes Mitch Kapor, founder of Lotus Development Corp as saying that the concept of singularity is "intelligent design for the IQ 140 people..." and is "driven by a religious impulse". I guess that leaves me saying those new computers sure look shiny ;-)

23DugsBooks
Editat: feb. 2, 2012, 10:47 am

From Dilbert comic strip.


24vy0123
nov. 28, 2012, 5:07 am

http://cser.org

An academic was reported to say to Elon Musk there's a 12% chance of life ending this century, one of the threats is a general A.I. It is interesting the software entrepreneur among philosopher and scientist driving the above initiative is Skype's co-founder.

25BogAl
nov. 28, 2012, 8:05 am

>24 vy0123:

Coincidentally, there's a 12% chance that sometime this century the bank's automated phone service will actually recognize what my Midwestern girlfriend is saying to it.

26stellarexplorer
nov. 28, 2012, 1:17 pm

>24 vy0123:. No wonder he's spearheading an effort to get people off Earth and onto Mars, where it may be safe.

http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/11/elon-musk-mars-colony/

27guido47
nov. 28, 2012, 2:39 pm

Having just 'acquired' almost all the 'Culture' books by Iain M Banks and no, I haven't yet read them, "...they just looks real pretty...", I do like the ideas of "strong AI." in SF. I recon. this is a direction, in SF, which most reminds me of my initial interest in the 50's/60's :-

28DugsBooks
Editat: nov. 30, 2012, 12:04 am

#26 Great link Stellar, the most interesting article I have read on Musk. Being unburdened by not having very much engineering knowledge I still think my idea for a combination magnetically levitated and rail gun launch system located high on the S. American west coast could be a cheaper way to supply a "reusable" interplanetary "mother" ship that would shuttle between Earth & Mars etc. without needing to land anywhere. Kind of along the 2001 Space Odyssey lines.

Unless proven impossible on the drawing board it would seem a team like those that put together one of the large atom smashers could design the rail gun launcher.

::edit:: Maybe Musk's fact that fuel is only 2% of the cost of an escape velocity rocket is a factor in the equation for a different launch system.... come to think of it. But still I would like to see the idea mused over by some crack engineers.

::edit 2:: aha, the actual quote of Musk is "I tend to approach things from a physics framework. And physics teaches you to reason from first principles rather than by analogy. So I said, OK, let’s look at the first principles. What is a rocket made of? Aerospace-grade aluminum alloys, plus some titanium, copper, and carbon fiber. And then I asked, what is the value of those materials on the commodity market? It turned out that the materials cost of a rocket was around 2 percent of the typical price—which is a crazy ratio for a large mechanical product"

#25 The A.I. is just frustrating your girlfriend to make her more compliant - until she starts feeding in your credit card numbers ! ;-)

29vy0123
nov. 29, 2012, 1:06 am

#28 EM has the hyperloop idea he plans to run numbers on. He believes the nano tubular elevator up is unlikely for various reasons, for one, now, you can't make a three legged stool out of the stuff. He's said he'd go to Mars once he's certain his companies will go on doing what he has in mind without him. His idea for re-orienting a column of water to shield occupants in spacecraft in the event of big solar flare makes sense.

On the six month trip to Mars, if there is an A.I. on board, I guess you want two of them, like the two sides of the brain.

Anyone have favorite books with spaceship A.I. they recommend ?

There's 2001

30stellarexplorer
nov. 29, 2012, 10:37 am

I like the ships in Peter F Hamilton's The Reality Dysfunction, the Night's Dawn Trilogy.

31vy0123
nov. 29, 2012, 6:49 pm

#30 Just imagine, sentient starships ( SS ) filled with artificial wombs for unwanted unborns shot in every direction. The SS search to locate a livable planet would be like a stripling sperm ( SS ) on a grand scale, traveling in the dark.

32DugsBooks
Editat: juny 12, 2013, 1:50 pm

I found this article interesting, apparently on topic and very recent; IBM packs 128TB of flash into brain-simulating supercomputer

Quote from the article:
"Computer scientists have long looked at brains for inspiration, and in recent decades, one avenue has been in self-learning neural networks that behave in some ways like a brain's teeming interconnected neurons. The Blue Brain project, though, isn't a neural network. Instead, it seeks to simulate the physical reality of real nerve cells, including their shape, size, and electrical behavior, IBM said."

Following one of the links you come across this 15 minute TED lecture by Henry Markram titled ; A Brain In A Supercomputer

http://www.ted.com/talks/henry_markram_supercomputing_the_brain_s_secrets.html

Quote from above lecture link:
"Henry Markram is director of Blue Brain, a supercomputing project that can model components of the mammalian brain to precise cellular detail -- and simulate their activity in 3D."

33DugsBooks
Editat: abr. 14, 2020, 6:31 pm

"Artificial intelligence is evolving all by itself", new article in Science magazine. Can't be that technical, I can understand most of it.

First paragraph of article:

Artificial intelligence (AI) is evolving—literally. Researchers have created software that borrows concepts from Darwinian evolution, including “survival of the fittest,” to build AI programs that improve generation after generation without human input. The program replicated decades of AI research in a matter of days, and its designers think that one day, it could discover new approaches to AI.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/04/artificial-intelligence-evolving-all-its...

34stellarexplorer
abr. 14, 2020, 8:28 pm

>33 DugsBooks: So is this good news, I wonder?

35pgmcc
abr. 15, 2020, 2:58 am

>33 DugsBooks: Very interesting.

>34 stellarexplorer: We all remember Yul Brynner in Westworld.

36stellarexplorer
abr. 15, 2020, 4:11 am

>35 pgmcc: I remember the tube behind his mouth that allowed him to consume liquids and maintain the image of hard-drinking SOB

37DugsBooks
Editat: abr. 15, 2020, 5:00 pm

>34 stellarexplorer: I hope so. I have some medical issues I am being treated for and while Chemo, CarT and other techniques are improving it seems that something could wade through the masses of genetic data and find some correlation to predict the effectiveness of a treatment for a particular individual with a particular genome. That as opposed to hard won statistical data from clinical use with different patients - which works but with varying degrees of success as I understand it.

AI tweaking out molecules, biological pathways/mechanisms that might help thwart cancer or the current corono virus would be nice also. I read where some vaccine candidates were proposed using an A.I.

>35 pgmcc: Battlestar Galatica is being run in the USA on some of the "over the air" side band channels , which should remind us of safe guards that might be needed. ;-)

38pgmcc
abr. 15, 2020, 6:00 pm

>37 DugsBooks: The real Battlestar Galatica or the remake?

39DugsBooks
abr. 15, 2020, 7:12 pm

>38 pgmcc: The good one - the remake with Katee Sackhoff! IMOHO 🙂

40DugsBooks
Editat: abr. 29, 2020, 11:11 am

A.I. can’t solve this: The coronavirus could be highlighting just how overhyped the industry is
An article at CNBC describing a sober evaluation of the current status of A.I. in addressing tough problems.

Quotes:
>Big AI firms like DeepMind, OpenAI and Facebook AI have remained relatively quiet throughout the crisis.

>AI has huge potential, but right now scientists are turning to tried and tested technologies instead.

>Of course, there are a few useful AI projects happening here and there.


41pgmcc
abr. 29, 2020, 12:31 pm

My understanding is that AIs are programmed to "learn" (I use that word in a limited context) based on experience. Their decision making algorithms will be tuned by experience. That is a bit like forecasting based on only historical data. When there is a problem that comes along that turns all the traditional processes, practices and norms on their head the AI, which has been formatted on old data, will not be able to produce any appropriate responses without major external, i.e. human (for the time being), input.

42DugsBooks
maig 21, 2020, 11:34 am

Microsoft Built One of the Most Powerful Supercomputers in the World to Develop Human-Like AI
https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/310806-microsoft-powerful-supercomputer-huma...

Interesting short article about Microsoft building some hardware specifically adapted for AI development. Quote from article:

"Microsoft and OpenAI announced a partnership last year to develop new artificial intelligence technologies, and Microsoft just revealed the first product of this deal: a massively powerful supercomputer."

43DugsBooks
Editat: maig 28, 2020, 10:55 am

Eye-catching advances in some AI fields are not real
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/05/eye-catching-advances-some-ai-fields-are...

A short article in Science magazine that provides some detail {a lot of which is over my head,terms can be looked up if not too lazy at the time, but very understandable to anyone with a software background I imagine} when comparing claims made by AI. Describing a published paper by some folks at MIT the article examines claims made by AI producers. The sifting process lauds some claims and lets a little air out of others.

44DugsBooks
Editat: jul. 24, 2020, 3:44 pm

Tired of networking your Raspberry Pi's together as a dark web server and ready to move up in the tech world? Nvidia And University Of Florida Supercharge Education With AI Supercomputer, a quote from the article:

Nvidia and The University of Florida (UF) are in engaging in a unique public-private partnership that could result in the development of the largest university AI supercomputer in the United States, and perhaps the world. The project is anchored by a $25 million gift from UF alumnus and Nvidia co-founder, Chris Malachowsky along with a matching $25 million grant from Nvidia in the form of hardware, software, training, and services, as well as an additional $20 million from UF for data center upgrades.

Looks like they are promoting the use of AI across all disciplines.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tiriasresearch/2020/07/21/nvidia-and-university-of-...

Another article on same subject:
https://www.hpcwire.com/2020/07/21/university-of-florida-to-deploy-world-class-a...

45proximity1
Editat: ag. 2, 2020, 9:11 am

Artificial Intelligence: What Everyone Needs to Know

See also: The Neuroscience of Intelligence

Why this latter? Because, unless one understands more than just a seat-of-the-pants idea of the neurological basis of intelligence, one isn't prepared to grasp the enormous gulf which separates what's called machine-"intelligence" and what we mean by human intelligence.

46DugsBooks
ag. 1, 2020, 11:51 pm

>45 proximity1: Looks interesting. I guess it is recent enough, published in 2016, to still be relevant :-) I will check some libraries when time allows.

47proximity1
Editat: ag. 2, 2020, 6:11 am

of course it's recent enough. Four years old--things haven't and don't change that much on this topic and, really, they won't.

The technology can and of course shall get better and better, more realistic-looking. But no matter its progress, it isn't and it's never going to qualify as the crucial thing: the experience of a self-aware entity which not only reacts to stimulus but does this without and independent of any prior human intervention. That means that the intelligence arises spontaneously from a set of conditions which are only liable to but not certain to produce something recognizable as intelligent response to stimulus.

Contrived machines cannot, as a matter of principle, do that. They have no cognizance of an identity which is theirs as assumed rather than imposed.

48proximity1
Editat: set. 10, 2020, 11:06 am

The Guardian (London)

(Opinion)
| Artificial intelligence (AI)
"A robot wrote this entire article. Are you scared yet, human?"
by (Guardian editors misstating the by-line as belonging to A.I. Unit ) "GPT-3"

I.O.W.... bullshit and "click-bait".

Upshot, conclusion:

RE: "A robot wrote this entire article" (says The Guardian), or,

"Humans lie." And humans at The Guardian are "pants-on-fire" liars.

49DugsBooks
Editat: gen. 23, 2021, 11:31 am

Deepmind solves 50-year-old ‘grand challenge’ with protein folding A.I.

I find this article interesting.

I remember people {chemists} talking about the difficulties in predicting protein/molecule folding over 30 years ago and attempts to use computers to aid with this. I hope this new knowledge helps to advance the techniques used to treat diseases - we sure need some better options with cancer.

::several tortuous rewordings::

50stellarexplorer
gen. 24, 2021, 10:52 pm

>49 DugsBooks: I’d like to understand the strategy better, but this is very exciting!

51proximity1
Editat: gen. 25, 2021, 8:55 am

>49 DugsBooks:


It would be much more interesting and helpful if, instead of posting a link to MS-NBC's report of the report, you posted a link to the relevant study (usually found in the news article). There's a standard form unique identifier --a "D.O.I." number--which is a reference used to identify academic studies. With that, interested readers could at least see if there's an
open-access version of the paper concerned at Cornell University's https://arxiv.org/

there is so much published work in this area that finding the paper referenced is difficult without the D.O.I number or the paper's author(s)' name(s) and release date.

E.g.

https://arxiv.org/search/?query=protein+folding+data+computer+analysis&searc...

52DugsBooks
Editat: gen. 27, 2021, 12:59 pm

>51 proximity1: Duly noted and understood. I knew when posting that MS-NBC is not a great reference for research but that is where I became aware of the event. That, combined with being a little lazy left me to let anyone reading the post ferret out more detailed information.

Thanks for posting a procedure to do that!

53proximity1
gen. 27, 2021, 4:12 pm


>53 proximity1:

SO, to read this, I have to go to MS-NBC, open a user's account, register my e-mail and other personal details--all to get an openly viewable link to this study which, when clicked on, displays the paper's URL?

No thanks.

Frankly, I don't want MS-NBC, or CNN or other aggregiously "Woke" organizations taking and storing my personal data just to access their press articles. If you'd like readers here to access and read about this study, you'd post a simple link to it.

54DugsBooks
gen. 27, 2021, 5:58 pm

>53 proximity1: I don’t have to do any of that! I access the article and still have a “sign in “ button at the top right. I list some stocks I am interested in there so I may of have registered at one time or another but never receive emails from them. They have a paywall pro section for some articles but I haven’t joined. I will post several links to the same news as I have done in others & link to original published research if readily available in the future.

Thanks for pointing that out.

55proximity1
gen. 28, 2021, 5:01 pm


>54 DugsBooks:



"This content is blocked because you are not allowing cookies.

"To view this content, click on Manage Cookie Preferences here or at the bottom of the page to allow all cookies."



I refused cookies. The article's version I was allowed to see included no link(s) to any study---though there may have been none, after all. This is simply an article pimping a claimed break-through by "Alphabet's" (Google-owned) Deep Mind.

So, apparently, not a lot to "see" there.

56DugsBooks
gen. 29, 2021, 12:17 am

>55 proximity1: wandering off topic here but I respect your opinion on cookies etc. I always try to refuse cookies on sketchy sites ,afraid of malware, but it is obvious from margin ads which pop up that I am leaving a huge trail for spiders, bots etc.

57proximity1
gen. 29, 2021, 11:58 am


It's alright. I think you got right to the point and saw and echo my own concerns. I don't (and can't) really know what's been excluded there from the view of those readers who refuse the cookies--that''s the angle, after all--but I do know that, interestingly, if there was one, there was no link to any study, independent or otherwise.

It's essentially a very promotionally-favorable article about the wonders of what they claim Deep Mind can accomplish.

Watson and Crick, building on and using essential work and contributions from Maurice Wilkins and Rosalind Franklin, were more modest in their claims of what they'd achieved.

58DugsBooks
Editat: feb. 15, 2021, 3:33 pm

>57 proximity1: Ooops! CNBC just turned into a piece of crap today and exhibits all the lousy issues you describe. This had never happened to me in years of use and starting an "account" there did not improve matters. Using the app on an apple device still seems ok . I won't be linking to anything there again as you suggest. My apologies for being snarky & disregard all of the above. I sent them an email feedback. It is really too bad, they have some good articles on occasion.

edited in::

Farrah (CNBC)

Feb 15, 2021, 12:03 PM EST

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We appreciate you taking the time to report this issue to our team. Our team is aware of this issue and is actively working on resolving any problems as soon as possible. We will contact you when the issue is either corrected or a solution is found.

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59DugsBooks
Editat: març 23, 2021, 11:34 pm

Going to read a book soon! I just put a hold on : Genius Makers, THE MAVERICKS WHO BROUGHT AI TO GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, AND THE WORLD, after reading an intro at Wired magazine.

https://www.wired.com/story/secret-auction-race-ai-supremacy-google-microsoft-ba...

The article makes it look very interesting.

For some reason the brackets aren’t working on the title.

60proximity1
Editat: març 24, 2021, 7:49 am

pattern recognition is an aspect of what we refer to as "intelligence."

But it's only one of many. Computers don't actually "recognize" anything, patterns included.

In the animal world pattern recognition is a common trait of higher forms of intelligent living organisms. They _do_ "recognize" things but, then, they're "intelligent" and we define intelligence itself by doing such things as "recognition." There's confusion of terms going on here.

Animals demonstrate a pattern recognition ability which arises (originally arose) in them naturally. They weren't "programmed" to achieve this as some designed end. It arose haphazardly out of eons of lower-life forms which didn't originally possess anything like it.

It would help if more people understood how much cellular and sub-cell activity goes on by way of entirely randomly probabilistic processes. Many of these look for all the world as if they're an intended outcome. That's because it seems to us that they operate to such an extent as "reliable" processes.

But these cellular processes neither have nor require anything at all in intelligence and very few educated people would mistake cellular processes as any indication that cell processes are the results of cells' "knowing" what they're "doing". What "they're" "doing" consists of blind chemical reactions which, no matter reliably repeated, are only relatively reliable.



Here's a related book recommendation:

Kupiec, Jean-Jacques
(originally in French) L'Origine des individus (2008, Paris, Fayard) . There was an English translation published. (The Origin of Individuals, Singapore, World Scientific Publishing ).

a much shorter text by the same author, in French only, as far as I'm aware, presents all the relevant information and, for any who can read French, I recommend trying to get and read this work instead of or, reading it first, in addition to reading the aforementioned book:

L'ONTOPHYLOGENÈSE: Évolution des espèces et développement de l'individu . (Ontophylogenesis: Evolution of species and development of the individual)

61DugsBooks
Editat: abr. 21, 2021, 8:04 pm

>59 DugsBooks: Just finished Genius makers : the mavericks who brought A.I. to Google, Facebook, and the World and I enjoyed the read.

The book gives a chronological history of the Artificial Intelligence aspect of computer science through an examination of the seminal and current people involved in the field. I learned a lot about the programs involved in A.I. and how the terminology used to describe them , like AGI {artificial general intelligence} and deep learning, can be changed to fit the commercial sentiment for funding A.I. research. Neural networks which are a basis for most all A.I. also are addressed as their development is discussed along with A.I. manifestations.

Starting in 1960 with Cornell professor Frank Rosenblatt building an early "neural network" in a New York lab Mr Metz, the author, throws a confusing {but necessary} amount of personalities at you and follows their intertwined careers through the evolution of AI. A timeline and index help with refreshing your memory while reading the book {if that is an issue for you as it is for me}.

A great read to get at least an introduction to different aspects of "AI." and the attitudes/philosophies that are engaged by the science.

62DugsBooks
Editat: oct. 14, 2021, 2:16 pm

Wired magazine is offering up this page - The Artificial Intelligence Database; that links to a myriad of articles about A.I. allowing you to "discover stories by sector, tech, company, and more."

63MaureenRoy
Editat: març 7, 2022, 1:13 pm

There is a theory on why the further human development of AI is so problematic. It goes like this:

There are two kinds of A.I. -- the first kind will genuinely try to help us, but the second kind will try to deceive us.

No human has figured out yet how to find out which type of AI we will deal with.

64SandraArdnas
març 6, 2022, 10:39 pm

>63 MaureenRoy: That ascribes will and intention to AI, so dubious theory to say the least

65DugsBooks
jul. 29, 2022, 2:49 pm

DeepMind AI Lab Predicts Structure of Most Proteins

Linked article to an astounding claim if you remember the early computer programs used to predict the folding of molecules {1970's or so}. Quote from article below:

"Researchers at the DeepMind Technologies artificial-intelligence lab said Thursday they had predicted the structure of nearly all known proteins, a significant advance in biology that will accelerate drug discovery and help address problems such as sustainability and food insecurity.

The London-based lab, a subsidiary of Google parent Alphabet Inc., developed an algorithm called AlphaFold that predicts the three-dimensional structure of proteins, molecules that are found in all living organisms and play essential roles in the functioning of cells. The project was initiated in 2016."

66pgmcc
jul. 29, 2022, 2:50 pm

>65 DugsBooks:
Very interesting.

67DugsBooks
maig 12, 2023, 12:43 am

Because of health reasons I have been away for a good while and an eternity in terms of the evolution of A.I. Does anyone use ChatGPT? or have a good book/ source for “generative A.I.” programming?

Motley Fool has an article out “ Study: 47% of Americans have used ChatGPT for stock recommendations”; and I read a transcript of a podcast by one of the founders of Fool in which he said he paid $20 a month for his A.I. program (ChatGPT I think - lost link to article) he uses to test/make stock decisions. He explained that the A.I. has not been “trained” with new data since 2019/20 so he is waiting on an update. I read somewhere it can easily take a billion dollars to get the data needed & labor train an A.I.
https://www.fool.com/research/chatgpt-investing/

68Cecrow
Editat: maig 12, 2023, 7:56 am

While strolling through the YouTube jungle, I found several people up in arms about AI in the music industry. When you can take someone's voice and add it to a new AI-generated song, you've got yourself an instant hit. Where does that leave the artist whose voice you borrowed? Audiences don't seem to care the AI produced it, some even saying the result is better than the artist's work. Ouch. Panic strikes the industry again (like the Napster days.)

In one area of work/entertainment after another, we are going to see AI become capable of replacing humans and at a much faster and more sudden rate than the industrial revolution introduced machines or than robots were brought to production lines. It's the lightning speed and suddenness of the change, the ability for employers to quickly implement it, that will produce the biggest problems and backlash. There's scarcely time to envision the future state before the change is here, and then we're already jumping ahead to the next level of AI. If I had the weight to add my voice to the call for a pause, I would say rather a 'pacing' so that society has time to catch up, never mind the worries about AI intelligence.

Whether that's a feasible thing to still expect to be possible is in question, and at some point it simply may not be. I'm reading about the "technological singularity" concept, a theoretical point after which technology improves too quickly for us to predict its effect on society anymore, and it will simply accelerate further and further into that state afterwards. Whether this singularity will actually ever happen is still debated, but it is the realm of AI that will determine whether it does.

69DugsBooks
maig 12, 2023, 2:59 pm

>68 Cecrow: I seem to remember reading about the potential for abuse by"AI in the music industry". It seems all the copyright lawsuits by musicians & music corps would discourage a lot of that. If you just wanted to get a lot of money generating traffic to a website however the legal options and ability to recover any $$$ are a lot murkier possibly. https://www.buzzfeed.com/williambarrios/musicians-who-were-sued-for-plagiarism

I have noticed a lot of "nabobs of negativism" recently calling out end of the world dangers of A.I.. I am sure there is a basis for this but that scenario get so much press that you rarely see how A.I. technology is being used for medical research etc.
I liked that CEO of Google , Sundar Pichai, first gave a shout out for positive things A.I. was doing before falling back on the "Skynet/terminator" warning that seem to be obligatory these days.

70DugsBooks
Editat: maig 14, 2023, 12:27 pm

Aha! Found a great online article at the Nvidia chip manufacturer site;
What Are Large Language Models Used For?
Large language models recognize, summarize, translate, predict and generate text and other content.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2023/01/26/what-are-large-language-models-used-for...

Hard for me to understand it all since I am not a “coder” but there are links in the article to other A.I. terms, like “transformers” that are informative & interesting. Not an easy read have not finished reading it with links & all. (One link gives an explanation for how the software recognizes what the word “it” means in the previous sentence above.)

71MaureenRoy
juny 15, 2023, 2:13 pm

A lawsuit claims that Twitter is not paying copyright fees for any music posted on its platform:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/music-publishers-sue-twitter-allowing-copyrighted-...

Other websites are paying these fees, so Twitter may lose this case.

I've had a family member in the hospital in recent weeks, so I have to apologize for my time away from LT. Due to rehab efforts and home health care our family routines are now becoming more predictable.

72DugsBooks
juny 27, 2023, 12:22 am

>71 MaureenRoy: Hope your family is doing well! I just did some time in rehab myself after some chemo treatments.

73DugsBooks
Editat: oct. 12, 2023, 11:34 pm

>69 DugsBooks: quote "you rarely see how A.I. technology is being used for medical research etc."

Well I guess you need to know where to look for that information.
The ‘model-eat-model world’ of clinical AI: How predictive power becomes a pitfall ; Is an article at Stat News which is "reporting from the frontiers of health and medicine" according to their self description. Katie Palmer, the author, explains some setbacks that have been encountered while using A.I.s in medicine and she quotes some top researchers in the field.

The leading sentence at the article;
A growing number of AI tools are being used to predict everything from sepsis to strokes, with the hope of accelerating the delivery of life-saving care. But over time, new research suggests, these predictive models can become a victim of their own success — sending their performance into a nosedive and generating inaccurate, potentially harmful results.

74DugsBooks
oct. 13, 2023, 3:21 pm

How AlphaFold and other AI tools could help us prepare for the next pandemic
Is another example of A.I. use in the medical field from Nature magazine/website. There are also several other links to similar topics in the margin of the article.

Quote from article;
Researchers are using machine-learning programs to predict the evolution of viruses and design vaccines.

75MaureenRoy
nov. 1, 2023, 7:30 pm

AI finds a way to finally start recycling clothes:

https://news.yahoo.com/tech-recycle-clothes-only-just-031449366.html

76MaureenRoy
Editat: feb. 22, 12:27 pm

A member of my family is a retired high school teacher (mathematics, instrumental music) whose reaction to the following new AI feature is that it will be quite useful for both students and teachers:

https://coach.microsoft.com/

77MaureenRoy
feb. 25, 5:24 pm

A contest that uses A.I. to help decipher an ancient Roman manuscript:

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/three-students-decipher-first-passages...

78MaureenRoy
Editat: març 18, 6:35 pm

Of the new books on AI, this is the one found most useful by data scientists and business leaders:

Co-Intelligence : living and working with AI

81MaureenRoy
juny 18, 7:25 pm

Electric car motor design will never be the same again:

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a61147476/ai-developed-magne...

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