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1KentonSem
des. 12, 2011, 1:27pm

Thought I'd start a thread for Lovecraftian Games.

I'm an old hand at AD&D, Traveller, Divine Right, Avalon Hill war games, Illuminati, etc. etc., but I've only played Call of Cthulhu a handful of times (and enjoyed it).

Today's question: has anyone ever played this board game?

http://www.amazon.com/Fantasy-Flight-Games-VA09-Arkham/dp/1589942108

Arkham Horror supposedly plays in 2-4 hours. True fact? Good reviews from Amazon...

2andyl
des. 12, 2011, 2:46pm

Anything from 2 to 8 hours for me. Although we sometimes play with some of the expansions. It is a good game, but it really depends on having a good group of mates. It is more of an experience game than a strategy game.

You should also look at http://www.amazon.com/Fantasy-Flight-Games-MAD01-Mansions/dp/1616610158 which some find to be a better game.

3AndreasJ
des. 12, 2011, 3:15pm

2-4 hours is pretty realistic, depending on number of players and whether they're prone to analyze everything or play more intuitively, but count on four hours minimum if it's everyone's first time. The rules aren't complex, really, but there's a lot of them.

If you like it, you'll find that after repeated plays it gets quite easy, esp. with larger numbers of players (it's best with 3-5, IMMO), which is where the expansions come in handy.

4KentonSem
des. 12, 2011, 3:30pm

>2 andyl:, 3

Thanks both of you for the useful info. I think we'd play it with 4 or 5 players, and approx. 4 hours would be good for duration. I do like the "cooperative" aspect mentioned for Arkham Horror. After those mysterious, unsolved disappearances of players involved in hotly-contested Illuminati games of the past, it would be nice to work with and not against each other! "Mansions" looks very intriguing, too, and seems a step closer to an actual RPG.

5andyl
des. 12, 2011, 3:55pm

#4

Well not really - Mansions Of Madness is still pretty boardgamey. You do not have the same leeway as you would in a RPG.

There are a number of Cthulhu RPGs now. You already know about Call Of Cthulhu but there is also Realms Of Cthulhu and Trail Of Cthulhu. You can also download Cthulhu Dark for free which is an ultra-lightweight game. See http://www.thievesoftime.com/news/cthulhu-dark/

6artturnerjr
des. 12, 2011, 9:22pm

HPL & gaming will forever be inextricably linked in my mind.

The first time I ever saw the name "H.P. Lovecraft" was when I was 13 years old and looking through my best friend's Dungeon Masters Guide. I came upon the justifiably famous APPENDIX N: INSPIRATIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL READING and saw "Lovecraft, H.P." nestled there between "Leiber, Fritz" and "Merritt, A.".

Appendix N is still the best goddamn list of reading recommendations for fantasy/horror/weird fiction fans, goddamnit.

7paradoxosalpha
des. 12, 2011, 9:23pm

My favorite horror game is De Profundis. It's an unconventional -- and fully diceless -- RPG that uses both correspondence and LARP elements.

I notice that there's a second edition that accommodates Internet play, and I'm curious about how that works. (The original edition discouraged that, although I have my own ideas about how best to manage it.)

8KentonSem
Editat: des. 13, 2011, 8:42am

>5 andyl:

Cthulhu Dark sounds like it would be interesting to try - if only I had the time for an ongoing RPG!

>6 artturnerjr:

I'll have to borrow a copy of the DMG and check out Appendix N - it's been a while!

>7 paradoxosalpha:

De Profundis sounds really intriguing, especially the "by correspondence" part. I'll have to read up on it a bit more...

9Thulean
des. 12, 2011, 10:16pm

I used to have Arkham Horror but I got tired of playing solo games and I sold it. :|

10KentonSem
des. 12, 2011, 10:29pm

>9 Thulean:

I've been there, Thulean. All those times I played Starship Troopers against myself.... You'd think that video games would be just the thing, but there's something wonderfully tactile about having a board and all those little pieces in front of you. Not to mention the hypnotic pull of all those lovely hexagons-on-cardboard (depending on the game, of course)! And a nice 60-page rule book in the tiniest of fonts.

11Thulean
des. 12, 2011, 11:38pm

10>

Yeah, I enjoy tabletop gaming but it can easily lose its entertainment value without the social factor from a group to play with.

12artturnerjr
des. 12, 2011, 11:46pm

>8 KentonSem:

Those crazy internets have saved you the trouble, Kenton:

http://www.digital-eel.com/blog/ADnD_reading_list.htm

13cosmicdolphin
des. 13, 2011, 6:40am

2-4 hours....for setup, once you get all the expansions ;-)

Arkham Horror we does love it :-) A great game. We didn't buy mansions of madness, my wife thought it was too combatty.

The Stars are right by Steve Jackson Games is also a keeper (it's actually a licensed german game). Good two player game.

14andyl
des. 13, 2011, 6:51am

#13

And Arkham Horror isn't combatty?

15KentonSem
des. 13, 2011, 8:48am

>12 artturnerjr:

Thanks, Art!

>13 cosmicdolphin:

2-4 hours for setup - ain't it the truth! Thanks for mentioning The Stars are Right. I've found most of the Steve Jackson games I've tried to be very enjoyable, especially Illuminati I'll definitely check out TSAR . In fact, thanks for all of the suggestions so far, everyone!

16paradoxosalpha
des. 13, 2011, 8:58am

I've just started getting into Looney Pyramids games.

I think I'll be re-reading "Entombed with the Pharaohs" and seeing if I get any inspiration for game rules there.

17cosmicdolphin
des. 13, 2011, 2:12pm

14andyl

Yes well, I think she thinks it's a bit too much like 'Descent' in some senses. We playtested it at a local games store.

18KentonSem
Editat: des. 14, 2011, 12:23pm

>16 paradoxosalpha:

Thanks for the Looney Pyramids link - this looks fascinating. It might make a great Xmas gift idea for someone I know...

I know the HPL tale as "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs", but I see it was also published as "Entombed with...".

19paradoxosalpha
des. 18, 2011, 12:19pm

My new game is here! Initial playtesting is a little unimpressive, and I'm very open to suggestions for improvement.

20paradoxosalpha
des. 19, 2011, 10:41am

The designers of the card game Fluxx have a Cthulhu version slated for summer 2012 release.

21KentonSem
Editat: des. 19, 2011, 12:46pm

>19 paradoxosalpha:

Wow! I didn't realize that "Pharoahs" was actually a game. Unimpressive - how so?

Also, help me a bit here. "Looney Pyramids" - is this the name of the company that produces a basic set of pieces ("Icehouse Pieces"?) for which you can make up (or purchase) games? I'm interested in trying Zendo. So, how do I go about getting what I need?

22andyl
des. 19, 2011, 1:34pm

#21

Looney Labs is the company. Looney Pyramids is now the name of the game system.

Nominally Zendo requires 60 pyramids in 4 colours (15 of each). That requires 5 stashes. You might be able to get away with just 4 stashes.
You will also need 20 black stones, 20 white stones and 20 green stones (or other coloured counters).

You can read more on the designer's page - http://www.koryheath.com/games/zendo/

23paradoxosalpha
des. 19, 2011, 2:26pm

> 21 Unimpressive - how so?

Well, the chance element really dominates any sense of tactics and strategy. But it is kind of growing on me during the course of playtesting. Although I devised it for the pyramid pieces, it's certainly playable without them. You could just use a chessboard, a deck of cards, and the following coins per player: two quarters, two nickels, a dime, and a penny. The quarters would be 3-point monsters, nickels 2-point, dimes 1-point, and pennies Magicians.

Oh, and if it wasn't clear (I suppose not) the game designer Dionysius = Carthoris = Paradoxos Alpha.

24KentonSem
Editat: gen. 4, 2012, 7:12pm

I bought Arkham Horror. Made the mistake of trying to play it right out of the box, learning as we went. Some of the directions were rather vague and/or convoluted. However, after about three hours or so, when everything started to click and make sense, I really began to enjoy it. Looks like a keeper - can't wait to play a real game in a couple of weeks with no learning curve involved.

25brianjungwi
gen. 5, 2012, 1:53am

I played Arkham Horror a couple of times and enjoyed it, though our initial run with 6 people made it incredibly lengthy. I enjoyed playing with three, co op gaming is fun.

26KentonSem
gen. 5, 2012, 8:44am

>25 brianjungwi:

Brian, we had four players, but that learning curve I mentioned did not allow us to finish the game. We did pretty much keep Yig (one of the "easier" monsters, supposedly) in his place, though! There is some strategy involved in Arkham Horror, which I appreciate. I'm looking forward to the next game.

27cosmicdolphin
gen. 5, 2012, 2:39pm

20 pardoxsalpha

Thanks for the heads up, I wondered whether they would do a Lovecraftian version of Fluxx. It'll no doubt be a blast.

We have had 'Arkham horror' and ALL expansions set up on our Dining table for a couple of weeks now, since were having several games with various people. One more play this weekend and we're taking it down though.

Arkham Horror was the reason we picked up the lovely large dining table we have, and there are still two more leaves in case Fantasy Flight do more expansions.

The game runs quicker when everybody playing has played it repeated times.

28paradoxosalpha
març 4, 2012, 10:26am

Cthulhu Dice looks fun to me. Has anyone here played it?

29paradoxosalpha
Editat: maig 11, 2012, 1:42pm

Okay, something else to play with Cthulhu Dice: Builders of R'lyeh.

30brianjungwi
abr. 9, 2012, 2:48am

Has anyone played Cthulu Saves the World?

http://pc.ign.com/articles/118/1183771p1.html

31paradoxosalpha
abr. 21, 2012, 7:06pm

So I've got Cthulhu Dice now, and it turns out to be a pretty trivial game. Our house rules make it entertaining, though not especially horrific. It tends to be two-player games, and we have little 1" plastic toys that we use to represent our cultists. This leads to an endless stream of funny game declarations like: "My frog retaliates against your dragon!" and "My insane baby attacks your tiger!"

32Thulean
abr. 22, 2012, 8:15am

http://rampantgames.com/blog/?p=4248

Call of Cthulhu the Wasteland.

I guess it was an IOS game that is now coming to PC. I had never heard of it before. It appears to be a turn-based RPG.

33KentonSem
abr. 22, 2012, 9:19am

>32 Thulean:

Thanks for posting that info. Outside of my now-antique PS1 and GameCube, PC is my only option. I think I will look into thus further...

34Thulean
abr. 26, 2012, 10:27am

PC is the way to go for gaming anyway. IMO of course. I have an Xbox 360 but it has been used perhaps 15 or 20 hours. I just like the freedom PC gaming gives as far as mods and whatnot. PC games are also cheaper than the console versions.

35prosfilaes
abr. 27, 2012, 4:56am

There's Miskatonic School for Girls that recently went through Kickstarter. It's a very pretty game, but the consensus among most of the board gamers I've played it with is that it doesn't have enough strategy to support the game.

PC is the way to go for gaming anyway.

There's nothing like being face to face with your opponents. Besides which, my computer sucks, and so do my reflexes, so boardgames actually give me a chance.

36paradoxosalpha
maig 8, 2012, 4:18pm


Some rave reviews are rolling in from people who've played the prototype at cons. It's not due on the market till August, alas.

37paradoxosalpha
maig 11, 2012, 10:35am

Holy crap! Check this out! Comically demented concept, but look at the sculpted player tokens!

38KentonSem
maig 11, 2012, 11:43am

>37 paradoxosalpha:

Nice! Richly detailed figures, to boot. I'm always checking out "Cthulhu Fluxx"...

39lammassu
maig 11, 2012, 11:49am

>37 paradoxosalpha:

OMG! The Doom that Came to Atlantic City sounds like a lot of fun! :-) Like monopoly, but instead of building a city, you're destroying one. Yay the end of days!

40lammassu
maig 15, 2012, 4:01pm

Aaaarrrgh! I would so plunk $100 into 'The Doom that Came to Atlantic City' boardgame, but the Mrs. would kill me. She'd kill me dead, and the judge would acquit her of any wrongdoing.

41paradoxosalpha
maig 16, 2012, 7:26pm

I'm primed for a demo copy of Cthulu Fluxx.

42paradoxosalpha
juny 12, 2012, 11:45am

Looney Labs is creating some advance buzz for Cthulhu Fluxx with a little quiz-format introduction to the game design: Guess that Goal. Based on the first one, Weird Tradition members should find it mighty easy.

43paradoxosalpha
Editat: juny 13, 2012, 2:30pm

The Doom That Came to Atlantic City made its nut on Kickstarter last week: "We thank you for your ongoing involvement in your Doom."

44KentonSem
juny 13, 2012, 3:51pm

Crom! It looks fantastic, but it's so expensive!

45paradoxosalpha
juny 13, 2012, 3:55pm

> 44

Well, $50 is about normal for a nice adult board game these days. But I admit I'd want the ones with pewter figurines, which still seem reasonable at $75. If only I hadn't just spent all my money on books! Well, no, I don't regret a thing, actually.

46KentonSem
juny 13, 2012, 4:10pm

>75

I know what you mean. $75 for books? Sure!. But on a game? Outrageous! But it keeps drawing me back....

:)

47paradoxosalpha
juny 15, 2012, 10:58am

On the more affordable side, The Stars Are Right looks really fun to me. Anyone here tried it?

48paradoxosalpha
jul. 4, 2012, 2:10pm

49KentonSem
jul. 5, 2012, 9:04am

>48 paradoxosalpha:

Looks good. I kept thinking that the "Ungoals" were a cannibalistic race from the Dreamlands. I would give this a try.

50paradoxosalpha
jul. 9, 2012, 9:46pm

Got my Cthulhu Fluxx demo copy today. Played two hands with the family. I won the first with the Miskatonic University goal (requires the Librarian and the Professor). The second I seemed to have won with the Cultist (it's Wilbur; he needs the Dunwich Horror Ungoal to be met), but I got trumped by the youngun with the Secret Cultist.

51paradoxosalpha
jul. 22, 2012, 7:04pm

At Half-Price Books today I scored a complete copy of Call of Cthulhu: The Card Game. I hope it plays well without expansions. Has anyone here played it?

52andyl
jul. 23, 2012, 7:06am

#51

It plays OK without expansions although a few asylum packs will help. Like all CCG/LCG games quite a bit of the fun is in designing decks to play against each other (the meta-game) and the more cards the merrier. FFG are switching to big-box expansions for the game - one of which would be plenty to give lots of options.

53paradoxosalpha
jul. 23, 2012, 7:20am

> 53

Yeah, if it turns out that I like the core game, I must say the "Order of the Silver Twilight" expansion looks to be right up my alley.

54artturnerjr
Editat: jul. 23, 2012, 11:28am

>45 paradoxosalpha:

If only I hadn't just spent all my money on books! Well, no, I don't regret a thing, actually.

Yeah, you woulda just spent it on something frivolous otherwise. Food, for example.

55paradoxosalpha
ag. 28, 2012, 4:22pm

So, experience now demonstrates that I do like the Call of Cthulhu CG, and the Silver Twilight expansion should arrive in this week's mail.

Also, I recently played the OOP Mythos card game, and found it mostly inferior to CoC. It had a lot of narrative integrity, but with just two decks it was far too invariable, and I never really got a sense of even vigorous tactical play. Also, the graphic design was sort of an eyesore, I thought.

56KentonSem
set. 19, 2012, 10:43am

57paradoxosalpha
set. 19, 2012, 10:57am

Yes, the die is beautiful, even if the game is borderline stupid. The die can be adapted for other games.

In other gaming, I just designed a few custom cards for Cthulhu Fluxx:
A Student Keeper
A Nyarlathotep Creeper
A "Hand Limit 2 + Investigators" New Rule
The Goal "The King in Yellow"
The Action "Summer Vacation"

And I've picked up some supplementary packs and started earnest CoC deckbuilding. My decks so far include Mothersuckers (Dark Young of Shub-Niggurath fronted by Syndicate seducers and con artists), Sunsets'n'Slime (Silver Twilight sorcerers and cultists with Deep One support), and Rough'n'Rotting (Hastur villains with corrupt bruisers from the Agency).

58KentonSem
set. 19, 2012, 11:28am

>57 paradoxosalpha:

Never played Cthulhu Dice - just wanted to document it in this thread.

Have you ever played the Steve Jackson ILLUMINATUS card game? One of my all-time favorites. The "Servants of Cthulhu" were one of the factions attempting world domination. Their goal to win the game, unlike any others was to destroy sub-groups under their control.

59paradoxosalpha
set. 19, 2012, 12:06pm

> 58

Yeah, I played a good chunk of Illuminatus in high school. We had four regular players, and it got so we could never finish a game because of the pile-on-the-leader dynamic. We had one game that ran for over twenty hours.

60KentonSem
set. 19, 2012, 12:35pm

>59 paradoxosalpha:

We always made sure to hide any sharp objects in advance of a game. The hardest part for me was always trying not to use the bathroom, which would provide a perfect chance for the formation of cabals that didn't include me. But really... 20 hours?!?! Did you win?

61paradoxosalpha
set. 19, 2012, 12:46pm

> 60

NO, nobody won. Decades later, I still have sealed envelopes holding the data to restart the tabled game.

62KentonSem
set. 19, 2012, 12:59pm

>61 paradoxosalpha:

It's not over until it's over. You do realize that any... errrr... untimely demises beforehand will result in a very EC Comics-looking game finale some day.... :-)

63paradoxosalpha
Editat: oct. 5, 2012, 10:36am

From the Call of Cthulhu Card Game (Touched by the Abyss expansion):



See our discussion of this volume in the "Black Man with a Horn" Deep Ones thread!

64artturnerjr
oct. 5, 2012, 11:09am

>63 paradoxosalpha:

Ha! :D

I forgot that we were talking about Colin Wilson in that thread. I mentioned elsewhere (http://www.librarything.com/topic/126593) that I picked up one of his novels (The Space Vampires) recently.

65KentonSem
oct. 5, 2012, 11:14am

>64 artturnerjr:

The Space Vampires is a sequel of sorts to The Mind Parasites. Both contain elements of Lovecraftian horror, as I recall. "Vampires" was made into the less-than-successful 1985 feature film LIFEFORCE, directed by Tobe Hooper and scripted by Dan O'Bannon.

66artturnerjr
oct. 5, 2012, 11:23am

>65 KentonSem:

So I should read The Mind Parasites first, I take it?

67KentonSem
Editat: oct. 5, 2012, 11:26am

>66 artturnerjr:

I don't think it's necessary at all, although a friend of mine who read both books recently definitely liked TMP much better.

ETA

Sorry to hijack the games thread! And now back to your regularly-scheduled programming. :-|

68paradoxosalpha
Editat: nov. 12, 2012, 2:45pm

I've long had a copy of The Mind Parasites and haven't gotten around to reading it. I have seen Lifeforce on the other hand, and while I don't know anything about its box office returns, I thought it was fun. It even scratched my girl-on-the-altar itch!

69paradoxosalpha
nov. 12, 2012, 2:45pm

Anyone here like Legos?

70paradoxosalpha
des. 12, 2012, 11:39am

Expansion just announced (looks good!) :

71KentonSem
des. 13, 2012, 12:39pm

>70 paradoxosalpha:

Nice - you've reminded me that I tried playing "Arkham Horror" exactly once. Think I'll try to set up a game over the holidays. I'm not sure if this has been asked, but is anyone aware of any good Lovecraftian games for PC?

Question about de Profundis up in >7 paradoxosalpha:. Is this actually played through the mail? Would this be something that WT members might want to play?

72paradoxosalpha
des. 13, 2012, 1:10pm

I don't know about PC games, but Elder Sign: Omens is for mobile devices and has gotten some good reviews.

Yes, De Profundis is actually played through the mail (among other possible modes). I don't have a copy of the rules anymore. I'd be interested, but I'll have to see how hard it is to track down either the first edition (which I had) or the revision (which I haven't yet read).

73paradoxosalpha
Editat: des. 13, 2012, 1:18pm

Okay, a little quick research shows that the first edition is not too hard to find used, with prices gravitating down toward $8.00 or so. The second edition is in print at $14.95, and seems like the better bet -- primarily because it has some method of accommodating play by email, while the first edition simply discouraged it, insisting that proper game pacing could only be achieved through hardcopy letterpost.

74KentonSem
des. 13, 2012, 1:38pm

>73 paradoxosalpha:

Is this it?

http://www.amazon.com/Profundis-2nd-Michal-Oracz/dp/1907204180/ref=sr_1_5?s=book...

I'd be interested in trying it out for only a fifteen dollar investment. Anyone else?

75paradoxosalpha
des. 13, 2012, 1:42pm

That's the one all right. I'm a little puzzled by the cover image in the Amazon listing, which has the subtitle in some Central or Eastern European language that I can't read. But the specs listed give the language as English. My arm could be twisted to pick this up pretty easily.

76KentonSem
des. 13, 2012, 1:46pm

>75 paradoxosalpha:

I'll make a separate post asking if anyone else wants to try. Do you have any idea how many players might make it worthwhile? We can choose an approximate starting date if it looks like it's a go...

77paradoxosalpha
des. 13, 2012, 1:57pm

My honest recollection is that it seemed like it would work with even two players, and three or four ought to make a respectable quorum. I don't know about any sort of upper limit. There's no referee, we'd just need to agree to some setting conventions and then use the mechanics of the game. (Again, this is all based on my reading of the first edition over a decade ago.)

To give people time to acquire the rules, but not let the impulse go stale, we might aim for a mid-January organizing start, with play to commence on ... Candlemas?

78KentonSem
des. 13, 2012, 2:26pm

>77 paradoxosalpha:

Sure! Think I'll order a copy now. A mid-Jan. start should give all players time to review the book. As noted above, I'll post this as a separate thread to get max exposure.

79bibliorex
des. 13, 2012, 2:42pm

I've got copies of both editions of De Profundis and would be interested in participating. I've wanted to give it a go for years now, but have never found anyone else who was also interested.

80paradoxosalpha
des. 13, 2012, 4:32pm

By the way, although The Doom that Came to Atlantic City got fully funded on Kickstarter, it's been thrown into delays by litigation-demanded redesign work.

81andyl
des. 13, 2012, 6:28pm

The copy linked to in #73 is the Polish version I believe. It was originally a Polish game. Or at least it is a picture of the Polish edition.

My copy says Cthulhu Gaming On The Edge Of Madness. I think it might be out of print also as I cannot seem to find it in stock at the major RPG online shops in the UK.

82paradoxosalpha
Editat: des. 20, 2012, 1:40pm

Yeah, it's a Polish cover. But the specs say English. We'll have to see what amazon ships us, eh?

ETA (after receiving amazon shipment): English book with English cover.

83bibliorex
des. 13, 2012, 8:10pm

Noble Knight Games, a very reputable new and used online game store I have bought a lot of books from, has copies of both 1st and 2nd edition (in English) available. The 2nd edition contains all the text of the 1st, plus it includes a final chapter on using email rather than snail mail.

http://www.nobleknight.com/SearchResults.asp?catid=1&search=de+profundis

84paradoxosalpha
des. 19, 2012, 12:32pm

Building an Elder God looks somewhat trivial. Has anyone here played it?

85paradoxosalpha
des. 20, 2012, 1:40pm

And here's a long and entertaining review of Strange Aeons:
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/900921/strange-aeons-two-parts-cthulhu-2-parts-d...

86paradoxosalpha
gen. 16, 2013, 9:29pm

Check out these brilliant Elder Sign game-generated vignettes.

87lammassu
gen. 18, 2013, 9:46am

My copy of the Call of Cthulhu LCG is in the mail. :) Soon I'll be the proud owner of the greatest game that ever existed.

88paradoxosalpha
gen. 29, 2013, 9:20pm

Fantasy Flight Games has just announced a cool-looking Elder Sign expansion.

89AndreasJ
feb. 7, 2013, 8:55am

For those who have played Elder Sign (the boardgame), would it scratch an itch for "something like Arkham Horror, but plays faster and, most importantly, doesn't involve quite as much setup and bookkeeping"?

90paradoxosalpha
Editat: feb. 7, 2013, 9:01am

> 89

I can't make the comparison authoritatively, because I haven't played Arkham Horror. But I like Elder Sign, and its setup and bookkeeping are extremely minimal. From what I understand, the sixteen investigator characters are the same as the Arkham Horror base game.

It's quite feasible to complete a satisfying game of Elder Sign (open-box to close-box) in just an hour.

91AndreasJ
feb. 7, 2013, 9:47am

Thanks, that sounds good. Anyone who has played both feels like chiming in?

92prosfilaes
feb. 7, 2013, 6:25pm

I will play Arkham Horror, though it's way down on my list. Elder Sign is at my "I will go sit on the couch and read a book" level. It's way faster and its setup and bookkeeping are trivial. But in my experience it's one of the cooperative games that consistently degenerates to solitaire, and the flavor feels completed pasted on.

93paradoxosalpha
feb. 15, 2013, 10:34am

I just read and reviewed an "Arkham Horror" novel, Ghouls of the Miskatonic.

94KentonSem
feb. 15, 2013, 11:01am

>93 paradoxosalpha:

"...three students, anthropologist, a scholar of ancient religion, a journalist, a photographer, a Pinkerton, and a hoodlum."

And the AD&D equivalent would be three non-player pieces of monster fodder, a wizard, a monk, a cleric, an illusionist, a fighter and a thief.

"Dark Waters" reminds me of a 1994 film with some enjoyable Lovecraftian elements:

http://atthemansionofmadness.blogspot.com/2011/01/dark-waters-1994-lovecraftian-...

This reminds me that I should get out "Arkham Horror" and play a game soon.

95JonathanGorman
feb. 18, 2013, 11:09am

> 89

Maybe, if you really like the artwork and the theme of Arkham Horror. However, Elder sign has a couple of issues for me

1) In Arkham Horror, there's a lot of dice rolling, but you don't remember that as much as what you were trying to do. In this game I just mostly remember the dice rolls and don't remember what I was trying to do.
2) I've easily beaten it with every group
3) Not much really in the way of choices.

So I'd say no...unless you didn't like the length and overwrought rules of AH but really liked the art and a hint of the teme

96AndreasJ
feb. 18, 2013, 3:49pm

Well, I do really like the art, but I'd also like a bit of a challenge - my group routinely defeats base AH - and, in a Lovecraftian game, more than a hint of theme. So your post gets filed under "against".

97paradoxosalpha
feb. 18, 2013, 4:15pm

> 96

Well, you can continue to count me as a proponent.

As far as the challenge goes, it seems to vary widely: so much depends on the random draw of adventures and mythos cards. There are easy ways to increase the difficulty through house rules, one of which is evidently becoming an official rule in the expansion -- no redeeming trophies at the gift shop to get Elder Signs! Other methods of increasing difficulty include changing the increment of the clock advance (four hours instead of three), and/or assessing a two-doom penalty (rather than one) whenever an investigator is devoured.

Also, be sure to play with the 2012 version of the rules (downloadable at the FFG site if you end up with a 2011 printing of the game), which repairs some overpowering of characters.

98KentonSem
juny 27, 2013, 11:45am

Sandy Petersen Kickstarter "Cthulhu Wars" game nearing it's end date:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1816687860/cthulhu-wars

I haven't looked at the videos yet, but it sure looks cool!

99paradoxosalpha
juny 27, 2013, 12:03pm

> 98

And expensive.

100AndreasJ
jul. 4, 2013, 4:10pm

Thought y'all might be interested hear I finally did end up buying Elder Sign. Played it for the first time today; the initial impression is that it's very much "Arkham Horror lite", which is just what I was hoping for.

The one concern is the ease with we beat it. I think we got a bit lucky, and we played a rule wrong in a way that made it easier, but I imagine we'll soon be looking at house rules to ramp up the challenge a bit.

101paradoxosalpha
jul. 4, 2013, 9:01pm

I just got the new Elder Sign expansion, and it really improves the base game, in my opinion. It's got more of everything: characters, ancient ones, adventures, items, mythos cards, and dice. We've only played it once, and Glaaki ate our lunch.

102KentonSem
set. 3, 2014, 9:30am

WT member Dannelke sent me this interesting update from the artist who recently worked on a new MoM expansion set:

http://jakemurrayart.blogspot.com/2014/09/the-mountains-of-madness.html

103paradoxosalpha
Editat: set. 16, 2014, 12:16pm

There are a few new Cthulhvian games out lately, which I haven't played:
Cthulhu!!! Hastur la vista, baby!
The Cards of Cthulhu
Eldritch Horror
The last of these is from FFG, and seems to be something of a reboot of Arkham Horror, with the scope expanded to a global setting. It's getting good marks from Arkham Horror players, and from some who found Arkham Horror too fiddly.

While researching links for the games above, I stumbled across a print-and-play game Postcard Cthulhu, which I might try out.

What I'm really saving my gaming pennies for is the upcoming Call of Cthulhu LCG expansion The Sleeper Below.

104andyl
set. 16, 2014, 10:29am

>103 paradoxosalpha:

There is a new one out pretty soon called Kingsport Festival

105AndreasJ
set. 16, 2014, 10:46am

paradoxosalpha
Eldritch Horror
The last of these is from FFG, and seems to be something of a reboot of Arkham Horror, with the scope expanded to a global setting. It's getting good marks from Arkham Horror players, and from some who found Arkham Horror too fiddly.


I'd recommend it to AH fanatics and to those who don't have AH, or dislike it for some specific failing not shared by EH. If you've got AH and thinks it's good but not earthshaking, you probably don't need EH. (And if you hate AH in general, you'll probably hate EH too.)

106paradoxosalpha
set. 23, 2014, 2:42pm

I just finished reading the Arkham Horror novel series "The Lord of Nightmares"; my reviews of each of the three volumes are posted:
Dance of the Damned
The Lies of Solace
The Hungering God

107RandyStafford
set. 23, 2014, 9:31pm

>106 paradoxosalpha: I'll second the favorable opinion of the series.

108paradoxosalpha
Editat: nov. 28, 2014, 9:52am



The wicked fairy at the christening of Horus?

109paradoxosalpha
Editat: des. 17, 2014, 1:47pm

110paradoxosalpha
nov. 1, 2016, 2:59pm

I recently played (and won) a game of "A Study in Emerald," a deck-building game by Martin Wallace, based on the short story of the same name by Neil Gaiman. I liked it so much that yesterday I bought a copy.

112andyl
nov. 1, 2016, 4:51pm

>111 paradoxosalpha:

I have the first edition. It is a good game but there was someone who just hated the game when I first played it and he was a fun-sucker. Ruined the game for everyone.

I also don't want to feed your Lovecraftian gaming urge too much but have you seen

Mythos Tales - https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/126100/mythos-tales
Which is a bit like Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective (for those who have played that) but Lovecraftian.

Also of course FFG are releasing their new LCG - Arkham Horror The Card Game - https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/205637/arkham-horror-card-game which looks very interesting. It is a cooperative adventure game where your character improves as he or she battles through each scenario (or maybe dies) to the big climax of the story.

113paradoxosalpha
nov. 1, 2016, 5:01pm

>112 andyl:

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the Arkham LCG. It won't fill the void left by departing my old Cthulhu LCG group, but I expect to enjoy it a lot.

I hadn't seen Mythos Tales. Of course Pandemic: Reign of Cthulhu is the most ubiquitous of the recent gaming yog-sothothery. It looks like a pretty solid adaptation of the Leacock co-op engine to Arkham Country.

114paradoxosalpha
nov. 1, 2016, 5:03pm

I think I'm also in the target market for this (just announced today).

115AndreasJ
nov. 1, 2016, 5:20pm

>113 paradoxosalpha:

Reign of Cthulhu is pretty good. Perhaps oddly, the mechanics fits the Lovecraft Light (sensu TVTropes) theme better than the original one.

116Jarandel
Editat: nov. 3, 2016, 11:08pm

One of the current Humble Bundles includes the Laundry File RPG (from the series by Charles Stross) and two supplements in .pdf format : The Laundry, Black Bag Jobs & Agent's Handbook

117paradoxosalpha
març 20, 2017, 1:11pm

I had a big week of Lovecraftian gaming last week. First, I observed the end of winter with a win in Elder Sign: Omens of Ice.



Then I celebrated the anniversary of HPL's death by feeding four investigators to Yog-Sothoth in Elder Sign: The Gates of Arkham.



Finally, my daughter and I learned to play Arkham Horror: The Card Game, and had a high old time with the first two scenarios. I've been playing amnesiac ex-con "Skids" O'Toole, while she's been the witchcraft-powered waitress Agnes Baker.

118paradoxosalpha
juny 13, 2017, 2:32pm

My daughter and I have worked our way through the first half of the Dunwich Legacy campaign in Arkham Horror: The Card Game. She's been playing as the roguish dilettante Jenny Barnes, and I've had the disgruntled chef and religious fanatic Zoey Samaras. It's been a blast; for example, here are our characters on "The Essex County Express":



When we got off the train, there was nothing left of it but the engine--everything else had been sucked into some hellish other dimension.

I'm really looking forward to the second campaign cycle, which is supposed to start releasing later this year:

119paradoxosalpha
des. 25, 2017, 4:23pm

I've recently picked up a couple of "Arkham Horror Novellas" published to supplement the card game:


The first I've read, and reviewed here.

120paradoxosalpha
gen. 29, 2018, 2:19pm

Now I've read and reviewed the second one.

121paradoxosalpha
març 8, 2018, 3:39pm

122paradoxosalpha
gen. 8, 2019, 10:40am

My latest Cthulvian gaming is Martin Wallace's AuZtralia, the "sequel" to his A Study in Emerald (inspired by the Neil Gaiman story of the same name--DEEP ONES discussed it here). Both of these are semi-cooperative games, but very different in their approach. Narratively, the premise is that after the espionage and eventual Restorationist revolution of A Study in Emerald, the liberated humans of Europe start an era of colonization. But when they get to Australia, they find that there is an Old One redoubt there, and a war ensues.

Players rush to create farms that will gain them the wealth they need to raise armies and buy munitions. They fight in the island interior with mi-go, shoggoths, Loyalist brigades, and zombies under the dominion of the Old Ones. "How else can you capture a zombie, unless you attack from the outback?" At about the midpoint of the game, the Old Ones enter the game as an automated additional player, and they take actions in the same pattern as the other players, in which they move, blight farms, attack ports, and so forth. In the end, the Old Ones get their own score, and they can potentially beat all the human players.

I've played it with four players, two players, and solitaire. It's definitely easier at higher player counts, but there are elements included to make it easier in solo and two-player games, as well as variants to increase the difficulty for three or four players. Here's a solitaire game where I got stomped:



By chance, I happened fortuitously into a second new-in-shrink copy of this one. If someone is interested in buying or trading for it, please let me know.

123WeeTurtle
gen. 9, 2019, 7:45pm

Wow, this is a large thread and it's hard to keep it all straight!

I'm mostly into video games but I do have some board games and my brother is the master collector in the family. I do have a fondness for the longer co-op games, or ones that aren't directly adversarial. The Fury of Dracula, Tales of the Arabian Nights, and The Lord of the Rings are among my favourites. Probably comes from my D&D fondness as well. Games like Decent and Talisman are great but do take a lot of time. Knowing the general systems for D&D can help a lot with figuring out the rules for these long haul board games.

We recently played a Lovecraftian game that my brother got and it was a bit of a tangle at first but we managed. I can't recall the name though (just texted my bro to find out). It's a board game that allows people to make modules that people can download on their ipad or laptop and use to play new adventures. The module we played was essentially Shadow Over Innsmouth with some window dressing. We were investigating more often than fighting, which did tend to get out of hand.

The interesting part of this game was that there were hidden mechanics going on. For instance, people could become mad and acquire secret missions. One player became a pyromaniac and her "win" condition for the game became setting at least three buildings on fire. We didn't know she was mad and because it's a cooperative game, she had to find ways to hide it or we could actually interfere.

I'd post a couple pictures I have but I'm not sure how to include personal photos in a forum post. Short answer, most of the party died in a burning building while fighting a mob of monsters and fishmen that we had to start stacking because there was not enough space for them to fit in the designated area. I *almost* made it by valiantly barricading myself in an abandoned fishermen's hut on the beach. Perfectly reasonable. Really.

124paradoxosalpha
gen. 9, 2019, 9:32pm

>123 WeeTurtle:

You can put images in a forum post with a regular html img tag (in angle brackets). Use the src= attribute to specify the URL of the image. Your LT account has a "junk drawer" connected to your regular gallery that is tailor made for uploading images you want to share that way, if you just have a pic and its not on the 'net.

125WeeTurtle
Editat: gen. 10, 2019, 12:57am

>124 paradoxosalpha: Thanks!

The situation...


Me.


If anyone recognizes the specific pieces let me know. It seems to be Mansions of Madness. My character there is William Yoric.

126AndreasJ
gen. 10, 2019, 12:42am

>123 WeeTurtle:

That'd be Mansions of Madness 2nd edition. A friend owns it and I rather like it.

127WeeTurtle
gen. 10, 2019, 1:08am

That appears to be it. We played through the Innsmouth module which is apparently the longest and most complicated of the bunch that were available at the time. It did feel long for the type of game iirc.

128paradoxosalpha
des. 15, 2020, 9:27pm

I've just tried out the recently-published Four Against the Great Old Ones and posted a review.

129WeeTurtle
des. 16, 2020, 6:57am

>128 paradoxosalpha: That does look interesting. If it something that would be playable over something like zoom or discord with other people or would everyone need to be at a table? If it's just narrative and paper, it's something I could probably run with my D&D friends. But then, they are less into Eldritch Shenanigans than I am I think, so it might just be me, anyway.

Going through stuff here and I found my copy of Cthulhu Fluxx that I bought ages ago and never played. Lacking an immediate play ground with the same interests tends to be an issue at times.

On the computer end, has anyone tried the new Call of Cthulhu game? I've never played any of the previous ones so I'm not really sure what it's about but it appears to be an investigative thing based around an island that likely has the usual Innsmouth veneer. Came out last year I think, so it's not exactly new, anymore.

Oh! Another mention on the computer game front. There's a game in development on Steam called Saint Kotar, the prologue of which, "The Yellow Mask," is free to play. I keep forgetting to check it out but it's (as some may have already noticed) influenced by The King In Yellow.

130paradoxosalpha
Editat: des. 16, 2020, 10:31am

>129 WeeTurtle:

It is just narrative and paper. I've recently found another game in the same line (not so suitable for solo play, I think, but a rules-light RPG): Cthulhu Nights.

I think Cthulhu Fluxx is probably the best of the Fluxx games. The sanity mechanism really works there, and the representations of Lovecraftiana are quite clever. (I also have a soft spot for the misanthropic Martian Fluxx, now out of print.)

131paradoxosalpha
març 1, 8:54am

I wasn't sure where else to put this notice of a recent book:

Appendix N: The Eldritch Roots of Dungeons and Dragons

It's a fiction collection, not a critical study, alas. Still a good idea, and it looks capably executed.

132KentonSem
Editat: març 1, 10:58am

>131 paradoxosalpha:

Sounds interesting. Having trouble locating a specific ToC.

133paradoxosalpha
març 1, 11:59am

Yeah, I couldn't find one either, but the author list in the amazon book description looks good: Poul Anderson, Frank Brunner, Ramsey Campbell, Lin Carter, Lord Dunsany, Robert E. Howard, Tanith Lee, Fritz Leiber, H. P. Lovecraft, David Madison, Michael Moorcock, C. L. Moore, Fred Saberhagen, Clark Ashton Smith, Margaret St. Clair, Jack Vance, and Manly Wade Wellman.

134WeeTurtle
març 2, 3:34am

Is it new? The cover reminds me of some of the older edition things. There was an article in Dragon Magazine called "From Lovecraft to Warcraft" that looked at influences and such on DnD, possibly among other things. Is it a collection of DnD related stories or is there some commentary in there that talks about inspiration, etc.?

135paradoxosalpha
març 2, 10:41am

It's a new collection of old fiction. I don't know if it's only complete stories or if it also includes excerpts from larger works.

136andyl
març 2, 11:02am

>135 paradoxosalpha:

From an interview I think some of the contents are excerpts

137elenchus
març 2, 1:36pm

Interesting enough to want to follow any posts here, or full reviews, but I won't seek it out on my own (yet).

138paradoxosalpha
març 2, 1:44pm

>136 andyl:

I now see the description says "short fiction and resonant fragments."