Tag Label Suggestions, Please!


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Tag Label Suggestions, Please!

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Editat: març 31, 2013, 2:51pm

All these Goodreads refugees talking about their tags have inspired me to tackle my mess. Over the years, I have (very, very) slowly been adding labels to my tags to group them on my tag page and make it easier to see what I'm talking about.

I'd like to have a label for common narrative types - things like Romance, Memoir, Travelogue, Princess Story, &c. where it can cross genre boundaries but always has a fairly predictable pattern to the narrative (and can be fiction or non-). But I'm not really sure of a good word to encompass what I mean!

Any suggestions?

I'm already using "narrative" as a label to refer strictly to narrative techniques, so that's no good.

I don't really want to use "type" because I'm thinking of splitting my "form" label into physical form vs. book type instead of the odd mingling I currently have (I don't really like the overlap of form:e-book and form:short story, for example). But I'm also not certain I want to use "type" for that either.

My tags (which are still a mess and somewhat inconsistent for now): http://www.librarything.com/catalog_tags.php?view=keristars

març 31, 2013, 6:19pm

I stopped trying to type my tags, but when I was I used (genre) for this type of thing. Just because the publishing industry doesn't recognize boarding school stories, for instance, as a genre, doesn't mean it isn't a particular kind of story with particular tropes that I tend to enjoy.

març 31, 2013, 6:37pm

Yes, and that was my first thought, but "genre" doesn't really feel right, somehow. My instinct is that what I'm trying to describe is more about how the narrative is set up, which is more about plot - except that plot is also not quite right, because I want to use "plot" to refer to specific plot tropes, when I get around to it.

Someone on Twitter suggested "structure", which I think might be what I'm looking for, but I want to mull it over a bit before I decide.

Though, fwiw, I don't think I'd include boarding school stories in this specific tag list - I would put it with the ambiance/genre ones. I think Princess Stories is stretching my "structure"(or whatever) tag a bit, except that I apply the term to more than just books about princesses/royalty, as it's more about the narrative patterns, and I just happened to link that structure to the MG and YA books about princesses...

març 31, 2013, 7:02pm

There are things that are important and meaningful to you, even if you can't explain them to any else. That's why I stopped typing my tags; it was forcing me to make distinctions that aren't meaningful to me. As long as you know what a "princess story" is and what kind of books belong there, is it really necessary to go any further?

març 31, 2013, 7:06pm

Yes, because I want those tags to show up near the other tags that are in the same group. I like to look at the tags to remind myself of a book and I also use them as reference.

I have a crap memory for specifics, so being able to tag my book specifically helps a lot. "Princess story" is meaningful for me and it fits what I'm trying to label here, it's just that it's a bit of a stretch, so I wouldn't use it as the guide to figure out the label.

Thank you for the suggestion, though.

març 31, 2013, 8:20pm

Can you share a few books that you would tag like that? I am not sure I really understand what you are trying to tag exactly....

març 31, 2013, 8:39pm

Princess story specifically or the tags that I'm trying to group under a single label?

Romance, Memoir, Travelogue, Princess Story, Gothic (Romance/Horror/Mystery), Coming of Age (maybe?)... are all tags I currently use that I would want to preface with the single label.

Princess stories (I also name them "Suddenly! A Princess!" sometimes), are about a pre-teen or teen who suddenly discovers that they are Special. Usually it's because they're royalty or can use magic or something (a bit like the farmboy of Star Wars). Also, they've been dissatisfied with their lives as they are - usually they feel that it's too boring and they want to be doing something else, or they feel they aren't appreciated. Naturally, whatever they're dissatisfied with completely changes upon becoming A Princess and life is AWESOME. Or it would be, except Princesses are still human and they have their own problems, as the protagonist swiftly learns. These books usually end with the protagonist going back to their everyday lives, more appreciative of what they have, or else vowing to be the Bestest Princess Evar and change things so that it's not such a drag anymore.

One common twist is for the protagonist to already be a princess - The False Princess by Eilish O'Neal is one. The Ordinary Princess and The Princess Diaries also fit, as well as Princess for Hire.

març 31, 2013, 8:43pm

The ones you are trying to group :)

Up and Down? Greener Grass? "Once Upon a time... not"? "Fairy Tales Today"? Something like that is the first coming to mind... But then I am in a weird mood just now.

març 31, 2013, 8:55pm

It's an incredibly popular story type for MG, but it starts to fizzle out in YA, and much less popular in fiction intended for adults - at least from what I can tell. Of course, in adult fiction you don't get the really-easy-to-spot Princesses. :P The plots get more complicated, too, so that the "greener pastures" part is only one element or more of a character growth thing, rather than the crux of the entire plot/story.

I'm more and more thinking that the Twitter response of "structure:" might be a good label. I mean, I'm just trying to say that "this book is written with the pattern of this kind of thing" - travelogues all talking about going and seeing places and often have no real plot in favor of describing far away places for the reader. Memoirs, also, tend to meander but focus on a single subject. Romances must be primarily a love story that ends in a happily ever after. etc. etc.

març 31, 2013, 9:03pm


març 31, 2013, 9:40pm

Does it have to be a word? If you are primarily interested in sorting you could lead each tag in the group with the same symbol.

març 31, 2013, 9:45pm

Oh, dang. 'Pattern' is really obvious now, but didn't occur to me as being an option earlier... Thanks Sylvia, that's even better than 'structure'.

11> Yeah, I don't like to use symbols because I forget what they're for!

març 31, 2013, 10:04pm

#12: As a sometime combiner, it's also really hard to tell what symbols are for and whether or not it's okay to combine them.

Editat: abr. 23, 2013, 8:57am

archetype? Motif?

jul. 24, 2013, 8:23pm