chexmix: my progress

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chexmix: my progress

Editat: oct. 19, 9:27am


  1. 1: Apollonius Rhodius, Argonautica
  2. 2: Appian: Roman History, vol. I
  3. 3: Appian: Roman History, vol. II
  4. 4: Appian. Roman History, vol III
  5. 5: Appian, Roman History, vol IV
  6. 6: Catullus. Tibullus. Pervigilium Veneris
  7. 7: Cicero, Letters to Atticus, vol. I
  8. 8. Cicero, Letters to Atticus, vol. II
  9. 9: Euripides, Suppliant Women, Electra, Heracles
  10. 10: Euripides: The Trojan Women : Iphigenia among the Taurians, Ion
  11. 11: Euripides, Helen; Phoenician Women; Orestes
  12. 12: Euripides, Cyclops; Alcestis; Medea
  13. 14: Lucian, vol. I
  14. 28: Theocritus Moschus Bion
  15. 72: Caesar, The Gallic War
  16. 75: Seneca, Moral Epistles vol 1
  17. 94: Martial, Epigrams, Vol. 1
  18. 129: Callimachus: Hymns and Epigrams; Lycophron: Alexandra; Aratus: Phaenomena
  19. 131: Epictetus, Discourses, Books 1-2
  20. 135: Claudian, vol. I
  21. 136: Claudian, vol. II
  22. 141: Cicero, Tusculan Disputations
  23. 145: Aeschylus, Persians. Seven against Thebes. Suppliants. Prometheus Bound
  24. 179: Aristophanes, vol III
  25. 197: Plutarch, Moralia, vol. I
  26. 218: Epictetus, Discourses , Books 3, 4; Encheiridion, Fragments
  27. 222: Plutarch, Moralia, vol. II
  28. 245: Plutarch, Moralia, vol. III
  29. 268: Cicero, On the Nature of the Gods / Academics
  30. 279: Diodorus Siculus: Library of History, Vol. 1
  31. 294: Remains of Old Latin, vol. I
  32. 305. Plutarch, Moralia, vol. IV
  33. 314: Remains of Old Latin, vol. II
  34. 330: Pliny, Natural History, vol. I
  35. 352: Pliny, Natural History, vol. II
  36. 338: Aristotle, On the Heavens
  37. 397: Aristotle, Meteorologica
  38. 497: various, Greek Epic Fragments
  39. 510: Macrobius, Saturnalia, vol. I
  40. 511: Macrobius, Saturnalia, vol. II
  41. 512: Macrobius, Saturnalia, vol. III

Last Finished:

268: Cicero, On the Nature of the Gods / Academics

Currently Reading:

13: Julian, Orations, 1-5

On Deck:



42 / 546 = 7.7%

oct. 25, 2014, 9:32am

Do you have a system for what order you're reading these? Or is it more random?

oct. 25, 2014, 7:54pm

Right now it's pretty much random, on an "Ooo, what about THAT one?" basis.

Eventually (before death) I'd like to be able to read Greek and Latin, but it may be just a pipe dream ...

nov. 25, 2014, 6:59am

OK, the next one has to be a Latin work ...

Editat: des. 7, 2014, 11:23am

I'm thinking next may be LCL 72: Caesar, The Gallic War.

NOT, mind you, cuz I'm all into war.

des. 7, 2014, 11:29am

Oooh, nice one! Gallia est omnis divisa in partes tres...

des. 7, 2014, 11:46am

"Gallia is some compact cars divided into party trees"? Huh? :D

des. 7, 2014, 12:40pm


des. 7, 2014, 12:45pm

Comedy gold!

des. 7, 2014, 1:37pm


des. 19, 2014, 11:19am

Caesar is quite enjoyable (how's that for a pithy critique?). There are a lot of names to keep in memory, and I wish the maps in this edition were clearer, but I could never make much sense of battle maps, anyway.

des. 19, 2014, 11:45am

Have to made it to the ethnography of the Druids yet? That's my favorite part! Also, is January a good start date for you for the Latin? I'm ready when you are...

des. 19, 2014, 1:03pm

>12 scaifea: Haven't gotten there yet. Also, January works for me ... I actually brought the Intensive Latin book to work with me today. I can start looking through the introductory stuff ...

des. 19, 2014, 3:21pm

>13 tungsten_peerts: Awesome - I've just send you an email with the first two lectures...

Editat: feb. 21, 2015, 11:11am

Been too long since I've put up an Oort Cloud picture.

març 3, 2015, 2:17pm

Picked up v. 1 of Claudian, today. Am going to follow it up with v. 2, as these do not seem to be large volumes. And that will polish off Claudian.

After that I am thinking of returning to Plutarch, with Moralia, v. 2.

març 4, 2015, 6:50am

Claudian, eh? I'll be interested to hear what you think.

Editat: març 4, 2015, 6:22pm

I'm not holding my breath ... the introduction was an example of what A. Pope would have called "damn[ing] with faint praise."

maig 12, 2015, 12:14pm

I'm thinking that after the second chunk of Pliny I will be ready for something with a plot. Suggestions welcome!

jul. 20, 2015, 5:10pm

Meteorologica is definitely not top-tier Aristotle!

jul. 26, 2015, 6:27am


set. 23, 2015, 8:49pm

Moralia v. 3 is actually quite a lot of fun: 'sayings' of various groups of eminent folks: Spartans, Romans, kings, generals, etc etc. Many of them are really pithy and/or amusing. One quirk of translation is that whenever the voice is supposed to be rustic the translator gives the speaker a Scots burr. Goofy.

set. 24, 2015, 11:04am

>22 tungsten_peerts: I know, right? It's a hoot what those translators would do with dialects and such, isn't it? I particularly like that some of them tend to translate the naughty bits into Greek. Um, what?

oct. 12, 2015, 6:46pm

Cicero's Letters to Atticus would be more compelling to me if I knew more about how Roman government worked.

oct. 13, 2015, 6:48am

>24 tungsten_peerts: Oooooh. OOOOOH. Most of my dissertation deals with the Letters to Atticus - they are some of my all-time absolute favorite things ever. But, yeah, you kinda need to know all sorts of details about life in Rome...

oct. 14, 2015, 4:20pm


I hesitate to ask ( :) ) but is there a good book on this subject ...?

oct. 14, 2015, 9:23pm

>24 tungsten_peerts: *SNORK!!* Nope.

oct. 20, 2015, 1:38pm

I'm having FUN. YOW!

gen. 11, 2016, 3:08pm

Back to Plootarch.

feb. 18, 2016, 12:41pm

... creeping up on 4%. w00t.

feb. 19, 2016, 8:14am

Woot! Baby steps...

feb. 19, 2016, 1:19pm


març 1, 2016, 12:38pm

Reading Callimachus. Very interesting. I seem to recall Ezra Pound mentioning Callimachus ("Coan ghosts of Callimachus" is the phrase that pops into me skull).

nov. 16, 2016, 10:21am

I'm back to my hopeless task. This horrible juncture in my country's history seems like the ideal time.

nov. 16, 2016, 10:34am

I admit that I've been thinking about pulling out my Thucydides lately. Nothing like an amazingly-written critique of a political disaster, complete with all sorts of political characters and their unbelievably bad choices, to go with these insane times.

nov. 16, 2016, 10:47am


There have even, apparently, been hate incidents in Cambridge. I'm just waiting for the national anthem to be changed to "Duelling Banjos."

nov. 16, 2016, 11:08am

>36 tungsten_peerts: Oh, cripes. (I've been saying that a lot lately.) I have a constant knot in my stomach these days.

Editat: des. 28, 2016, 7:24pm

Macrobius' Saturnalia is a big ol' grab-bag ... but I like those sort of books.

gen. 24, 2017, 7:29pm

Zowie! 4.5% done.

gen. 25, 2017, 9:28am


gen. 25, 2017, 5:38pm

>40 scaifea: Right?? I am BLAZING.

gen. 25, 2017, 6:01pm

Careful not to set those Loebs on fire with your bad self!

gen. 25, 2017, 9:00pm

This would only happen if I was managing to read the Greek/Latin WITH MY LEFT EYE AND THE ENGLISH WITH MY RIGHT, SIMULTANEOUSLY.

But, you know, goals 'n' stuff.

gen. 26, 2017, 6:50am

As far as goals go, it's not a bad one. I may be a bit biased there, though.

Editat: feb. 8, 2017, 6:23pm

Started Saturnalia, Vol. III.

The whole, "let's show how Virgil borrowed from earlier writers" thing has gotten rrrrreeeealllllyyyy old by this point, but it looks like the next book might go back to the "here's some interesting, obscure shite" stuff. Fingers crossed.

feb. 9, 2017, 6:47am

*snork!* Fingers crossed...

feb. 15, 2017, 11:52am

The last book (VII) of Saturnalia was indeed better, with loads of argument about how the body works ... and the classic "chicken or egg" question got asked!!

març 3, 2017, 12:34pm

The first books of Appian are fragmentary, but it was fascinating to read an early version of the Coriolanus story.

It _seems_ anyway to have been one of Shakespeare's sources for his play (one of my favorites) because the great scene with Coriolanus and his mother is right there at the center. Cool!

març 4, 2017, 10:04am

>48 tungsten_peerts: Yup, Shakespeare used Greek and Roman sources for a lot of his plays. I love that about him, of course.

març 22, 2017, 8:30am

Task: look up why the Punic Wars are called "Punic."

març 22, 2017, 11:16am



(wants to answer but doesn't want to seem irritating)

abr. 25, 2017, 11:00am


juny 2, 2017, 9:56am

Appian's coverage of the Roman Civil War(s) is pretty exciting stuff ... as long as I can keep everybody straight! It's easier once it's down to Caesar and Pompey.

juny 13, 2017, 6:32pm

The last volume of Appian is currently being ... navigated. Caesar is dead. Brutus and Cassius are still alive but ... Antony and Octavian are trying to figure out whether they can co-exist. Or not. Pretty exciting stuff.

juny 14, 2017, 6:40am

Oooh, Octavian! I love the B&C et al. thought getting rid of JC would solve the problem, but then this young scamp sweeps in and blows everyone away.

juny 30, 2017, 10:09am

DamnATION those triumvirs were bloodthirsty mofos: "hey, don't piss us off or we'll offer a big cash prize to whoever brings in your head!"

jul. 5, 2017, 8:23am

1. LCL gotta stop adding volumes. My % went down! ;)

2. As I'm reading the Catullus, I'm playing with glancing back and forth from English to Latin and back again. I've done this with other volumes, but it is somehow easier here, and kind of fun.

jul. 5, 2017, 8:53am

>57 tungsten_peerts: Oh! Catullus! Love him. He's one of the first poets that Latin students tend to read because his Latin isn't too terribly difficult. He can be so lovely and then also so, so naughty.

jul. 5, 2017, 11:39am

>58 scaifea:, yes ... he's, erm, plainspoken! :)

ag. 28, 2017, 12:47pm

... back to Cicero. :)

ag. 28, 2017, 3:03pm

>60 tungsten_peerts: WOOT!!! My absolute favorite!

des. 12, 2017, 9:18am

Seneca is reallllly speaking to me. I'm at a rough patch in life ... at least in some ways (but then it's been rough in one way or another for a very, very long time). I'm tired, exhausted really. Stoicism makes sense to me.

des. 12, 2017, 11:02am

Seneca is a good 'un, I agree.

des. 12, 2017, 3:21pm

I regret never getting around to doing Latin with your guidance. I have the attention span of a gnat.

des. 12, 2017, 4:43pm

The offer still stands, if you ever decide to try it.

març 1, 2018, 6:49pm

Abandoning this.

feb. 19, 2019, 3:59pm

Picking it back up. Why not.

nov. 23, 2019, 2:23pm

Started on Greek Epic Fragments because of a not-quite-randomly-generated interest in the topic of the Epic Cycle. As with other volumes of fragments, not the most exciting reading. :)

des. 4, 2019, 1:24pm

... Greek Epic Fragments is pretty interesting -- as sets of fragments go -- but my next choice shall be something more ... extended. :D

feb. 17, 2020, 1:06pm

I am stalled in my attempt to charge through in order by the fact that Loeb 13, the first part of Julian's Orations, is apparently not available in the Minuteman Library Network -- which is weird, because so far they've had everything. I would rather not buy it, but it'd be easy to do since the Harvard COOP has the whole thing.

març 1, 2020, 3:55pm

Oops, looks like I requested the wrong volume of Plutarch from the library!

març 2, 2020, 5:58am

>71 tungsten_peerts: Not sure whether to file this under First World Problems or Ancient World Problems...

març 5, 2020, 4:54pm

>72 scaifea:: Maybe just cold-ridden old-guy problems! :)

març 6, 2020, 5:32am

maig 11, 2020, 9:52am

Ahem. Not sure why I didn't think of this before ... although I do not directly work for Harvard, I am *in some senses* a staff member and get some of the perks ... including access to the libraries and ... ta-daaaa the entire Loeb electronic collection.

Of course, I prefer paper books, but ...

maig 11, 2020, 1:06pm

Aw, very cool!

maig 26, 2020, 7:52pm

Yeah. Mind you, I've never tried to read much off a computer screen ... but this might help me over volumes the Minuteman Library System just doesn't have (they have most of them).

juny 4, 2020, 4:34pm

More on the online Loeb Classics ...

Part of the reason I was lukewarm about my work-connected LCL access was that it seemed, initially, that an institutional login did not (logically, once I thought about it) allow one to do things like bookmark and make notes etc (which are possible with an individual account).

But ...

The LCL differentiates between log-in and sign-in. If you log in with an institutional account, like I do, you can create an individual/personalized sign-in, so that you CAN bookmark and ... all those other things.

I just had to spend a little more time with the interface before flouncing away frustrated.

So I may proceed through my tentative next volume (Julian's Orations) and see how it goes. I still don't have a great history of reading on LCD screens (I like e-ink and I cannot lie).

abr. 4, 2:22pm

Here's an "un-dormanting" message. ;)

I'd like to give a shout out to Neil Hopkinson's translations in the Theocritus/Moschus/Bion volume I just finished. They seem (I don't have the Greek so whaddoiknow?) swell, are often quite lovely, and are a pleasure to read. The volume ends with a group of "shaped" poems, in the forms of various objects. Good reading.

maig 22, 10:25am

Back on Cicero. Good stuff.

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