Claudian. Huh?

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Claudian. Huh?

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1tungsten_peerts
març 22, 2015, 3:37am

Claudian. Yeah ... translation is pretty creaky. He seems to have almost been some sort of political cartoonist for the tottering Empire. I find myself wondering what his tone is like in the Latin & if the verse has, well, beauties.

Certainly not dreadful fare but I will be eager to be through the two volumes and on to something more ... um ... something (I apologize: it's around 3am and I am barely awake).

2tungsten_peerts
març 23, 2015, 8:32am

Slight revision to my earlier: "Against Eutropius" is positively scabrous. Enough so to be really entertaining. :)

3scaifea
març 23, 2015, 3:49pm

Um, it's Latin verse, so yeah, there's beauties. Okay, I may be a bit biased, but still. *grins*

4tungsten_peerts
març 25, 2015, 7:37am

So there's no Latin McGonagall?

5tungsten_peerts
març 25, 2015, 8:06am

Amber, would it be accurate to say that Latin is more "compressed" than English?

This is pretty subjective, but when I look at the Latin - English facing pages in the Loeb, and when I try to match up the English with the Latin, there appear to be far more words in English (than in Latin) to say the same thing.

6scaifea
març 25, 2015, 8:25am

>4 tungsten_peerts: Well, believe it or not, Cicero, for all of his amazing oratorical and philosophical skills, was rubbish as a poet. True story.

>5 tungsten_peerts: In general, yes, that's fairly true. The Romans generally valued conciseness in their language and the language itself is sort of built that way to begin with. For instance, since it's an inflected language (the endings on words tell you what grammatical function they perform in a sentence), there's no need in many cases for separate prepositions, and they don't have articles, either. They would also leave out any word that they thought one could reasonably be expected to know was needed, too.

7tungsten_peerts
març 26, 2015, 2:40pm

Whatever one thinks of Claudian's poetic talents ... reading him is an interesting experience simply because he refers to contemporary events, people, etc. I know very little Roman history ... and NOTHING about this very late period. I'd never heard of Stilicho before -- and here Wikipedia says he was for a time the most powerful person in the Western Roman Empire.

One never knows ...

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