Lewis and Clark Journals

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Lewis and Clark Journals

1jroger1
Editat: oct. 10, 2015, 5:26 pm

For western Americana buffs like me - this is a reproduction of a 1962 LEC publication. Even though it carries a DLE-like price ($456) and is limited to 800 copies, the word "deluxe" does not appear in the description and it is not shown on the Deluxe Editions page.

http://www.eastonpress.com/prod/5EF/LEWIS---CLARK-S-br-JOURNALS-OF-THE-EXPEDITIO...

2astropi
Editat: oct. 10, 2015, 6:34 pm

Why? why? why?
While I love EP, and I love many of their DLEs... this is a horrible choice! The slipcase is great, the leather binding is beautiful... BUT, I'm willing to bet this is not letterpress as the original LEC edition is. Furthermore, and most importantly, the original LEC edition can be had for a fraction of the cost! So, while many of EP's facsimiles are of books you are likely to never be able to find or afford, this is not one of them. In fact, there's a copy of the LEC on ebay for $75. Not a cool decision by EP.

3jroger1
oct. 10, 2015, 7:36 pm

>2 astropi:
I agree it's pricey, and abe.com has a "very good" copy for $45.00. The better ones, though, go for $250 and up, and most of them mention that the spine is sunned or faded as is very common with the non-leather LECs. Letterpress isn't important to me as long as it is easy to read.

Nevertheless, this is one I'll have to think hard about because it is so easily available in other formats.

4GOBOGIE
Editat: oct. 10, 2015, 11:18 pm

I like 'em! Hard to look nicer than the dark green set EP put out a few years ago though.

5astropi
oct. 11, 2015, 4:19 pm

Well, perhaps I was a bit hard. You're right that the editions in fineish condition are a few hundred. While a great book, I don't quite understand EP's decision to republish this? I would have opted for something along the lines of the 1941 LEC Leaves of Grass with photographs by Edward Weston. It's a masterpiece.

http://www.mfa.org/exhibitions/edward-weston-1

6iluvbeckett
Editat: oct. 11, 2015, 11:52 pm

Trying to decipher EP's strategies with their releases is a sure recipe for landing one's self in a rubber room :-(

7treereader
oct. 12, 2015, 10:06 pm

> 6

Personally, I'm starting think that EP's master plan is to re-release everything they have the rights to print as a DLE or at least an LE. The order is kept somewhat random to make sure everybody sees something they like at any given time.

Of course, that begs a few other questions: Will they survive long enough to do so? If they do, what will they do once everything's been published as a DLE? Super DLE? Of course, we'll be nitpicking their inconsistent meaning of the new Super prefix.

8JustinTChan
oct. 13, 2015, 2:18 pm

>7 treereader:

I couldn't even sell my LEC edition for $120. $456 seems a bit much.

9astropi
oct. 13, 2015, 2:30 pm

8: It also depends on condition. Was your LEC in "fine" condition with the letter? If so, you easily should have gotten that amount. Well, OK it might take a little time, but I bet someone would have paid that price for a complete copy in fine condition.

10jroger1
oct. 13, 2015, 4:59 pm

>9 astropi:
I bought one two days ago from Amazon in Fine condition for $56. The photos looked perfect, but I haven't received it yet.

11treereader
oct. 15, 2015, 7:59 pm

> 8

Oh I agree, I think $456 for a book is ridiculous when it's not too much different than its $45.60 sibling.

Now if they start making the boards out of stainless steel or titanium, covered in Kobe beef's leather, and then covered with some hydrophobic finish and waterproof pages, and *moving* color pictures, and hand-marbled moire, then I'll start forking over some serious cash.

12eastonlionel
oct. 15, 2015, 9:03 pm

What's also odd is that this is a facsimile of the LEC edition with color pictures. I know EP owns the rights to the HP catalog, but not the LEC catalog. I believe previous issues of this set have been the HP edition with only black & white illustrations. I'm curious (not that we'll know) if EP had to get permission from LEC, which still around, to publish this edition. If that is the case, this may set a precedent for future reproductions of LEC editions.

13busywine
oct. 15, 2015, 9:05 pm

>12 eastonlionel:, EP owns the rights to the LEC catalogue -- just not the Shiff era ones.

14GOBOGIE
oct. 16, 2015, 3:05 am

I still like it :-)

15astropi
oct. 16, 2015, 11:02 am

14: Hey, that's all that matters. I recall people complaining about the Ovid DLE and Crusades DLE "they're too expensive... what is EP thinking?" and now, people would stampede to be able to purchase them at the original cost. Point is, if you like it, go for it and don't worry about naysayers! Although I personally think they do have a point :)

16saintmelville
Editat: abr. 30, 2020, 12:50 pm

Item 3122, The Journals of the Expedition, is back on the EP site.

17hamletscamaro
Editat: abr. 30, 2020, 3:18 pm

>16 saintmelville: thanks for the heads up. I have often wished I ordered this edition. This has long been off the site, so I wonder if they found another corner of the warehouse that had been overlooked, or if this was a re-wrapped return. I will soon see. Since it still shows on their site after my order, they evidentally had more than one copy.

18saintmelville
abr. 30, 2020, 3:59 pm

>17 hamletscamaro: From memory, 3122 never appeared on either the DLE or LQ list. Hopefully, this is the second-half of its printing.

19hamletscamaro
abr. 30, 2020, 8:13 pm

>18 saintmelville: I believe Lewis and Clarke has been off the site for a long time. I checked to see if Wootle noted when it was originally "sold out" but as he has not date noted; so that may mean that the first half sold out and it quietly slipped off teh website. So perhaps your theory makes sense. If that is the case, I think it has been a long gap since it last appeared.

I wonder if they are letting some of these gaps between printings grow longer. I know Phantom of the Opera had a good long gap, as did War of the Worlds. Maybe they all do and I am not paying close attention. (??)

20supercell
Editat: des. 28, 2020, 8:18 pm

Aquest missatge ha estat suprimit pel seu autor.

21laotzu225
nov. 16, 2020, 12:48 am

>12 eastonlionel: I happen to have the Heritage Press edition, which is one of the editions that comes closest to the LEC original. It does have color plates and appears to be the same size and well done.
Easton has done DLEs of a few LECs, like Wilde's Salome. For these they probably had to get permission and ger access to the original artwork.
These books are such important historical documents and beauitfully done, so I recommend getting the LEC, Hp or EP as one prefers!

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