Grimm versus Andersen. Which one is your favourite?

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Grimm versus Andersen. Which one is your favourite?

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1aluvalibri
set. 27, 2006, 11:33am

Well, I believe it is not easy to answer (even if I am the one posting the topic).
I have always loved many of their fairy tales, whether by one or the others. I must say one thing, though, and that is the fact that Andersen's fairy tales are far more sad than the Grimms', whereas the Grimms' are darker and, in some instances, actually gruesome.
Also, perhaps to be discussed as another topic, what about Russian, French, and Norwegian fairy tales?
Should I pick my very favourites, I would have to vote for the Russians.

Paola

2lohengrin
Editat: set. 27, 2006, 12:46pm

You're leaving out Perrault, who adapted and collected such tales as Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Puss-in-Boots, Bluebeard and Little Red Riding Hood (BEFORE the Brothers Grimm did--a hundred years before, and then some).

Also, it is important to remember that the Grimms collected folk tales and compiled them, they did not WRITE them. Andersen wrote largely original tales--some were based on older tales, but many of his most famous (like The Red Shoes) were not. So comparing the two is unfair.

3aluvalibri
set. 27, 2006, 1:29pm

No, Lohengrin, I did not leave out Perrault. My mistake was not to mention his name when I more generally talked about French fairy tales.
I did not even suggest to compare the two, far from it! In fact, they are as different as chalk and cheese. I only asked our fellows LThinghers to voice their preference, that is all.
If you read my message carefully, you must have noticed that I also mentioned other countries.
Why leave them out?

4A_musing
set. 27, 2006, 2:04pm

Well, an interesting question - thank you for asking.

Between Grimm and Andersen, I choose La Fontaine.

5aluvalibri
set. 27, 2006, 2:19pm

THANK YOU, A_musing!!!

:-))))

6A_musing
Editat: set. 28, 2006, 11:25am

By the way, my second and third choices were going to be the Shah nama and 1001 Nights, each of which have many familiar tales. Then we might get to your Russians.

One reason I like La Fontaine is that there are so many great variations (Marianne Moore's for example, or the version with illustrations from Marc Chagall, though, of course, much of the fables themselves are adapted from Aesop and others.

7aluvalibri
set. 27, 2006, 5:31pm

my Russians???
I wish I could read them in the original language...

8the1butterfly
oct. 15, 2006, 1:50am

I really loved reading the original Grimm's and Anderson's bored me to tears. My vote is definitely with Grimm's on this one.

9nmoira
març 11, 2007, 12:30am

I to read my oldest daughter from Norman Shapiro's La Fontaine translations (not the Bawdies). We love it. She's an early reader, so I keep the house well stocked with fairy and folk tales and myths to keep things interesting without being too realistic. She loves the Andrew Lang colored Fairy Books and has read them all cover to cover. Grimm, Andersen and many others retold in these volumes. She tolerates Andersen, but openly disdains his stories like "The Fir-Tree" and "The Darning Needle." Other than Lang, I'd wager she'd choose Peter Asbjornsen and Jorgen Moe over Grimm any day. We love trolls.

10fairyscope Primer missatge
oct. 9, 2007, 8:33am

How about Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen illustrated by award winning Ukrainian artist Vladyslav Yerko? The best came to the best. Here is the link - www.snowqueen.us. Take a look at the slideshow page.

11aluvalibri
oct. 9, 2007, 8:37am

Lovely drawings!

12the1butterfly
des. 6, 2007, 1:59am

I loved the Grimms- I read a compilation of their tales from cover to cover. Anderson made me want to hit my head- I was trying to read that and The Left Hand of Darkness one summer and I barely read the whole summer because I didn't want to touch either of them. He had some good ideas, but he wasn't a great teller (I think). I also wasn't into how everything had to be morals and religion- yeah to Disney for making The Little Mermaid into a fun story instead of into a quest to get a soul and go to heaven.

I'll agree that Russian fairy tales are cool and I wish there were more translations around!

13Nikkles
gen. 27, 2008, 1:48pm

Ross Sullivan-Wiley has some of my favorite Grimm illustrations, posted on his Elfwood site. I recommend:

http://www.elfwood.com/art/r/o/ross/rooster.jpg.html

http://www.elfwood.com/art/r/o/ross/hans.jpg.html

http://www.elfwood.com/art/r/o/ross/grimm.jpg.html

http://www.elfwood.com/art/r/o/ross/crows.jpg.html

I highly recommend taking a look!

14Severn
juny 19, 2008, 11:56am

Funnily enough, I never had an edition of Grimm as a child! But I had a lovely Andersen book, which my Mum read to me from, and I also read independently. I now have a collected edition including all of my childhood favourites - like The Old House; The Tin Soldier; The Little Match Girl -plus scores of others I never read as a child.

I also love the beautiful illustrations from Edmund Dulac

15Sovietska
jul. 20, 2008, 6:46pm

I have always loved Grimms - read, and reread compilations of their stories my whole childhood. Recently though I really lent towards the Russian fairy tales, and if I had to pick my favorite now, it would be the Russian Fairy Tales.

16moonstruckeuphoria
jul. 27, 2008, 8:29pm

I'm actually kind'a new to that fairy tale world here - but I'm enjoying my study XD. I am a big fan of Norwegian tales so far :).
By the way, would anyone care to name off a few titles for me to check out???

17trisweather
Editat: nov. 3, 2008, 3:54pm

the1butterfly, I can't believe that you think that Disney's version is better than Andersen's. They completely ruined a beautiful story about love and sacrifice.

But besides that I love both Brothers Grimm and Hans Christian Andersen. To my they are so different that I can't pick a favourite.

18Rubbah
gen. 14, 2009, 7:10am

I love russian fairytales, i study russian at A level so I can to some extent read them in the original(with a dictionary) and I did my oral exam on russian fairytales last year. Anything with baba Yaga is good. Some good retellings of russian fairytales, or books with russian fairytale characters in are:
the secret history of moscow and enchantment.

19aluvalibri
Editat: gen. 14, 2009, 8:09am

I love Russian fairy tales! Unfortunately, I cannot read them in the original language, but I have a wonderful collection of the Aleksandr Afanasjev stories.

20psynoid
març 10, 2009, 1:19am

If there are only 2 to choose from, I'd choose the brothers Grimm.
I've got the complete and unabridged works of Anderson, but up until now, I haven't read all the stories in the book, where as the Grimm collection I read from cover to cover.
I preffer Lang's collection though, with his colored fairy tale books, and would like to read more Russian fairy tales.

21susan594
març 30, 2009, 10:33am

I can't choose between Grimm and Andersen. it's like choosing opposites - do you like sweet or savoury? I would not want to live on either exclusivley.
I thought the Snow Queen was thrilling when I was a child. and with a true and brave heroine. My late mother had a decorative plate "snow maiden", painted by Boris Zworykin that captured the feel of it. Grimm scared me, but was exciting too. I had a copy of "Old Peter's Russian Tales" by Arthur Ransome, bringing a breath of the Russian Steppes, and of course Andrew Lang's Rainbow Books. If I REALLY have to choose, it would be Andersen. i can't resist the sadness