Series Being Changed to Publisher Series

Blue Guides done. I added a description to the publisher series page.

... and Blue Guides is still in the process of being undone.

Done. The user that was making the changes asked why I was changing them back, so I sent them a couple messages explaining the difference between Series and Publisher Series.

How is the Norton not a Publisher's Series?

>5 Crypto-Willobie:

Well it is both. It is a series put out by a single publisher. However because each work contains original material (like critical essays) copyright to Norton these works will not be printed by any other publisher.

I think the best way to distinguish Series from Publisher Series is this:

If every copy of the work is in the series, it's a Series. Every copy of The Fellowship of the Ring is in the Lord of the Rings, so it's a Series. Every copy of every Dummies book is part of the Dummies series, so Dummies is a Series (this is Tim's example). Every copy of every Norton Critical Edition is part of the Norton Critical Edition series, so it's a Series.

If a publisher produces some editions of a work that are part of their series, but other copies of the work aren't part of that publisher's series, then it's a Publisher Series. Huck Finn printed by Bantam as part of their Bantam Classics series is part of the Bantam Classics series, but other copies of Huck Finn aren't part of that series. So Bantam Classics is a Publisher Series.

>6 andyl: Yeah I know about the Nortons' special status. I don't agree with that arrangement because there are many many editions of classic works that include large amounts of annotation and related texts and criticism, and if we separated all those out it wd be chaos. But I've learned to accept it.

Nevertheless, even in a Norton the classic work itself is the core of the book, without which the special edition would not exist, and that's really what is being serialized (series-ed?), so that's what should determine Real vs Pub series.

>8 Crypto-Willobie: Nevertheless, even in a Norton the classic work itself is the core of the book, without which the special edition would not exist, and that's really what is being serialized (series-ed?), so that's what should determine Real vs Pub series.

I would wholeheartedly agree with that if the NCEs were combined with the primary work, but since they're separated (which is a separate debate) I'm firmly of the opinion that they're Series not Publisher Series.

>7 r.orrison: Yeah, I'm familiar with the Series concepts, thanks. But the Norton special status is an imposed distinction, rather than a natural distinction -- even though we've (more or less) agreed to accept it. So it makes for an unnatural Real series.

Variorum editions of the works of Shakespeare, both the Furness series and its MLA successor. But I don't agree that they shd be separated.

Should have kept my mouth shut because now Collectorator has gone and pulled all the variorum Shakespeares out of the regular works.
I'll keep other examples to myself.

>15 Collectorator: OK, my mistake, sorry. I saw you working on them and jumped to conclusions

The same user is just deleting Series without even bothering to replace with Publisher Series:
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=455390&type=1...

Is it THAT user again?

>23 Collectorator: Looks like the 'Style and Civilisation' books are publisher series, because some have appeared under two different publishers (and with different names).

As to the Henry James, well that is clearly an abomination. I've seen something similar for Simenon.

https://www.librarything.com/series/Mirabilia
should be
https://www.librarything.com/publisherseries/Mirabilia