Rudy, Rudy, Rudy! - Giuliani’s Clown Act

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Rudy, Rudy, Rudy! - Giuliani’s Clown Act

12wonderY
set. 26, 2019, 9:51am

Out of the corner of my attention yesterday, I heard Rudy yelling at the hosts of Fox & Friends.

Here are the highlights of Rudy Giuliani’s unhinged “Fox & Friends” interview

First, Giuliani insisted that there was nothing wrong with Trump asking Zelensky to investigate Biden because there was a vast conspiracy to frame Trump that originated in Ukraine that included Biden, Hillary Clinton and George Soros. ...
The “Fox & Friends” hosts then steered the conversation back to a bombshell Washington Post story that dropped on Tuesday night in which multiple government officials blamed Giuliani for getting them into a “sh*t show” by inserting himself into diplomacy with Ukraine.

Giuliani responded to this by calling all of these officials “disloyal.” Rudy also insisted at one point during the interview that the State Department should be “grateful” that he inserted himself into diplomacy because otherwise no one would have pushed Ukraine to investigate Biden.

The hosts then asked Giuliani about Trump’s reported requests to have the Ukrainian government investigate Biden, and Giuliani insisted that the president didn’t say anything wrong before revealing that he’d had the entire transcript of the conversation, which is supposed to be classified information, read aloud to him. This is particularly eyebrow raising because Giuliani is not a government official and is instead serving as the president’s personal attorney.

22wonderY
set. 26, 2019, 10:04am

Ah, I was incorrect. He was yelling at a fellow guest on Laura Ingraham's show

‘Shut up, moron’: Rudy Giuliani lashes out at critics, defends his Ukraine involvement

For most of the roughly 13-minute interview, Giuliani sought to shift the focus from himself back to Democrats and Biden. At one point, he even suggested that Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), who went to Ukraine this month, should be impeached instead of Trump.

Giuliani later added that he had gotten involved rather than leaving the investigation to officials with the Justice Department or the FBI because of his role as Trump’s lawyer.

“I’m defending him,” Giuliani said. “He’s my client. I don’t know, only Donald Trump is not entitled to a defense in America.”

“Sorry to cut you off,” Ingraham said following several attempts to let Giuliani know that he was out of time. “You gotta get your voice back.”

32wonderY
set. 26, 2019, 10:48am

Gail Collins today:

Rudy Giuliani is the Trump administration’s point man on Ukraine. Just remember that, and everything else will make a lot more sense.

“I think it’s incredible the way he’s done,” the president of the United States said Wednesday about his personal lawyer, who specializes in going on television and babbling incoherently.

Rudy Giuliani — World’s Worst Best Friend

4margd
Editat: set. 28, 2019, 1:49am

Keith Gessen @keithgessen | Sep 27, 2019:
A few words on Kurt Volker, who appears to be the State Department contact that Giuliani keeps telling us is in his iPhone.

He is a highly respected former G.W. Bush administration official. He is a Republican from the neocon tradition with a focus on Central and Eastern Europe; in the 90s he worked for Richard Holbrooke during the Bosnia negotiations and for John McCain as a foreign policy aide.

In 2015-16, he worked for the Jeb Bush campaign before it collapsed, then sat out the rest of election. He declined to sign the Never Trump letters circulating in summer-fall 2016 because he thought Trump might in the end need some foreign policy professionals.

In spring 2017, Rex Tillerson asked him to come into the administration and work on the increasingly complex negotiations over the proposed settlement in Eastern Ukraine. He became Special Rep to Ukraine. According to most DC foreign policy people, he was doing a great job.

But also, according to the whistleblower complaint, he was trying to somehow contain the Giuliani-Trump conspiracy to shake down Ukraine for information, the DNC servers, bespoke prosecutions, and so on.

In short, another classic case of someone going into this administration to try to do the right thing (by their lights), getting caught up trying to "manage" the madness, and in the end getting totally slimed by association with these guys. The End.

ETA_______________________________________________​

Kurt Volker, Trump’s Envoy for Ukraine, Resigns
Peter Baker | Sept. 27, 2019

WASHINGTON — Kurt D. Volker, the State Department’s special envoy for Ukraine who got caught in the middle of the pressure campaign by President Trump and his lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani, to find damaging information about Democrats, abruptly resigned his post on Friday.

Mr. Volker, who told Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday that he was stepping down, offered no public explanation, but a person informed about his decision said he concluded that it was impossible to be effective in his assignment given the developments of recent days.

His departure was the first resignation since revelations about Mr. Trump’s efforts to pressure Ukraine’s president to investigate former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. and other Democrats. The disclosures have triggered a full-blown House impeachment inquiry, and House leaders announced on Friday that they planned to interview Mr. Volker in a deposition on Thursday.

Mr. Volker, a widely respected former ambassador to NATO, served in the part-time, unpaid position of special envoy to help Ukraine resolve its armed confrontation with Russia-sponsored separatists. He was among the government officials who found themselves in an awkward position because of the search for dirt on Democrats, reluctant to cross the president or Mr. Giuliani yet wary of getting drawn into politics outside their purview.

...Mr. Volker’s departure...leaves the Trump administration with few senior officials versed in Ukraine’s struggles with Russia.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/27/us/politics/volker-ukraine-resigns.html

5lriley
set. 27, 2019, 3:53pm

Giuliani is unhinged. It's kind of funny---he became famous for prosecuting the mobster John Gotti who was arrogant as could be and thought himself invinceable. Now he's working for a guy with the same character traits.

He must know he is criminally liable for the shit he's doing. I think he's become so addicted to the spotlight that he can't help himself--he'll do anything to get on a news show and make any kind of noise. He's going to end up in prison unless he dies or kills himself.

6margd
set. 28, 2019, 2:34am

Giuliani cancels paid appearance next week at Kremlin-backed conference
Tom Hamburger, Josh Dawsey, Amie Ferris-Rotman and Rosalind S. Helderman | September 27, 2019 at 7:32 p.m. EDT

Rudolph W. Giuliani, whose actions as President Trump’s personal lawyer have helped set in motion an impeachment inquiry, abruptly canceled his scheduled paid appearance at a Kremlin-backed conference in Armenia next week.

Giuliani, who confirmed to The Washington Post on Friday morning that he would attend the event, reversed himself that evening after The Post reported on his participation in the meeting, which Russian President Vladi­mir Putin and other top Russian officials are expected to attend.

The two-day conference is sponsored by Russia and the Moscow-based Eurasian Economic Union, a trade alliance launched by Putin in 2014 as a counterweight to the European Union.

...Giuliani was set to participate in a panel led by Sergey Glazyev, a longtime Putin adviser who has been under U.S. sanctions since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine five years ago...

...he also appeared last year

...Giuliani..works for the president in a personal capacity and does not take a salary from the government or the president...

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/politics/white-house-restricted-trump-calls-putin...

7Crypto-Willobie
set. 28, 2019, 6:32pm

>3 2wonderY: I love Gail Collins!

8mamzel
oct. 1, 2019, 4:17pm

>5 lriley: Do you think he might be counting on a presidential pardon?

9lriley
oct. 1, 2019, 6:40pm

#8--He can't really be pardoned until he's convicted. To be convicted he'd have to be charged and then tried. They could easily take that to 2021 when there will be a new administration.

10jjwilson61
oct. 1, 2019, 6:58pm

>9 lriley: I don't think that's true. Nixon got "a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes he might have committed against the United States while president".

12margd
oct. 3, 2019, 12:22am

Giuliani consulted on Ukraine with imprisoned Paul Manafort via a lawyer
Josh Dawsey, Tom Hamburger, Paul Sonne and Rosalind S. Helderman | Oct. 2, 2019

...Rudolph W. Giuliani in recent months has consulted several times with Manafort through the federal prisoner’s lawyer in pursuit of information about a disputed ledger that would bolster his theory that the real story of 2016 is not Russian interference to elect Trump, but Ukrainian efforts to support Hillary Clinton.

The alliance, which Giuliani acknowledged in an interview this week with The Washington Post, stems from a shared interest in a narrative that undermines the rationale for the special counsel investigation. That inquiry led to Manafort’s imprisonment on tax and financial fraud allegations related to his work in Kiev for the political party of former president Viktor Yanukovych...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/giuliani-consulted-on-ukr...

13lriley
oct. 3, 2019, 9:38am

For someone who keeps saying he was exonerated on the Mueller investigation--Trump can neither let it go or let it sit. I don't think it's just about him--it's also about his creepy friendship with Putin. It's so important to him that people start believing all kinds of bullshit.

142wonderY
oct. 21, 2019, 11:33am

Trump's Rudy problem

•As far back as November 2016, a source who worked on the Trump transition team told Jonathan Swan, a colleague “walked back into the war room after an hour on the phone with Giuliani. He had a few pieces of notebook paper covered front and back with notes on red flags, and he looked like he’d just seen a ghost."

•“Not good, guys. Not. Good,” the colleague said, according to the source. A second source with direct knowledge confirmed the account.

In June, Axios broke a story about leaked vetting documents that the Trump transition team and the Republican National Committee compiled in the fall of 2016. While vetting Giuliani, they found so many red flags that he was ultimately prevented from serving at the State Department.

•Giuliani’s file was so thick, they took the rare step of producing a separate dossier to cover his extensive foreign business entanglements.

•A former Trump transition team member said senior Trump aides made clear that Giuliani could not be confirmed as secretary of state because of his foreign business ties, and the job of the vetting team was to show Giuliani why “he really shouldn’t put himself through a Senate confirmation.”

•"The extensive amount of work that I've done in the 80 or plus countries that I've been to in the last 17 years is what would've qualified me to be an excellent secretary of state," Giuliani said after Axios explained the contents of the documents to him in June. "Would you prefer someone who hasn't been overseas?"

152wonderY
oct. 27, 2019, 10:41am

Awkward! Trump Lawyer Rudy Giuliani Spills the Tea After Butt-Dialing a Reporter

Giuliani can be heard telling the man that he’s “got to call Robert again tomorrow.”

“Is Robert around?” Giuliani asks.

“He’s in Turkey,” the man responds.

Giuliani replies instantly. “The problem is we need some money.”

The two men then go silent. Nine seconds pass. No word is spoken. Then Giuliani chimes in again.

“We need a few hundred thousand,” he says.

It’s unclear who “Robert” is or what exactly Giuliani and the other man are discussing, but NBC reports that Giuliani has ties to a lawyer named Robert Mangus who did work in Turkey for a firm both he and Giuliani worked for.

162wonderY
oct. 31, 2019, 3:46pm

I think I've read that many of Rudy's recent foreign contracts have been security consultations.

Rudy Giuliani needed Apple genius help to unlock his iPhone after being named Trump cybersecurity adviser

Less than a month after he was named President Donald Trump’s cybersecurity adviser in 2017, Rudy Giuliani walked into an Apple store in downtown San Francisco.
...
He was locked out of his iPhone because he had forgotten the passcode and entered the wrong one at least 10 times, according to two people familiar with the matter and a photo of an internal Apple store memo obtained by NBC News.

Hilbert (a former FBI cyber expert) said he’s also troubled by the fact that Giuliani’s cellphone data is backed up to Apple's iCloud system, even if the former New York City mayor largely uses it as his personal phone.

“All of his stuff is literally sitting in Apple systems,” Hilbert said. “It makes him very vulnerable.”

17lriley
oct. 31, 2019, 6:24pm

#16---all the best people.

182wonderY
nov. 30, 2019, 8:20am

192wonderY
nov. 30, 2019, 8:26am

Rudy Giuliani’s security company gets an “F” for website security

US president Donald Trump describes Rudy Giuliani as a “great crime fighter,” yet almost three years after multiple shortcomings with Giuliani’s corporate website were first pointed out, the president’s personal lawyer has not brought it up to even the most rudimentary security standards.

Mozilla Observatory, an online site-scanning service operated by the nonprofit company behind the Firefox web browser, rates Giuliani Security & Safety’s website an “F” for basic connection security, with a score of 0 out of 100. In a suite of 11 tests, the Giuliani Security & Safety site passes just 3, according to Mozilla.

“I’d love to become the person that comes up with a solution to cybersecurity,” Giuliani told Fox News shortly after the 2016 presidential election, referring to a possible position in the Trump White House. Trump appointed Giuliani as his cybersecurity adviser in January 2017.

However, the former New York City mayor can’t seem to adequately secure his own website from potential eavesdroppers.
...
Web visitors to Giuliani Security & Safety are greeted with a warning that the site is “not secure.” This means the site, which features a testimonial from Gennadiy Kernes, the mayor of Kharkiv, Ukraine, who has been accused of having ties to organized crime, isn’t using a private connection, and the information a user sends or receives could be intercepted or altered. Giuliani Security’s SSL certificate has expired—an issue first raised in 2017—meaning the site’s identity can’t be trusted.

Ron Gula, who worked as a network penetration tester for the National Security Agency, told Quartz he has met Giuliani and came away impressed. He noted that the site, as presently configured, is little more than a “billboard” for Giuliani’s business, and since it doesn’t ask for passwords or other sensitive data, it doesn’t require strong defenses.

The site is “pretty basic,” and isn’t asking users to transmit sensitive information through it, agreed Josh Mitchell, a cybersecurity consultant at Nuix, an Australian technology firm. At the same time, if it is indeed an advertisement for Mr. Giuliani’s services, Miller questions his team’s cybersecurity acumen if “they can’t install a website properly.”

“We’re happy to see that Mr. Giuliani attempted to encrypt traffic to his company’s site,” said Max Hunter, engineering director at the nonprofit Electronic Frontier Foundation, in an email. “Manually configuring a certificate is a frustrating, time-consuming process with opportunities for embarrassing misconfigurations like this one,” Hunter said. The EFF has worked to make securing websites easier, and Hunter recommended that Giuliani check out its free “certbot” tool to do just that.

Giuliani did not respond to a request for comment.

202wonderY
Editat: nov. 22, 2020, 4:45pm

https://www.newsweek.com/former-cia-officer-rudy-giuliani-third-world-level-corr...

The Washington Post reported on Wednesday that Giuliani had been "in talks" to get paid a minimum of $200,000 by Ukraine's former prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko in exchange for helping Ukraine find assets supposedly stolen from the country as part of a retainer agreement drafted in February.

The newspaper claimed that a later draft agreement from March between the lawyer's company Giuliani Partners and the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice would have seen the former New York City mayor paid $300,000 if those "stolen" assets were found.

The New York Times ran the same story Wednesday, and reported that only the draft contract between Giuliani Partners and the Ukrainian Ministry of Justice appeared with the company's letterhead and the signature of the president's personal attorney.

The Times also said that the lawyers Victoria Toensing and Joseph diGenova were named in the earlier, unsigned draft agreement.

Both newspapers also translated a Ukrayinska Pravda interview with Lutsenko this month in which he is purported to have said that he had been in touch with advisors to Giuliani about arranging a meeting with U.S. Attorney General William Barr, but was told he would have to pay a company to lobby for it, which he refused to do.

Responding to the Post story, ex-CIA officer and Republican policy director Evan McMullin lambasted Giuliani's alleged behaviour.

The 2016 presidential candidate and frequent Trump-critic tweeted: "Giuliani even tried to get the Ukrainian prosecutor general to pay for a meeting with Attorney General Barr. This is third-world level corruption right at the top of our own government."

Giuliani has categorically denied the claims reported yesterday, accusing the Times of attacking him because he had "exposed their hypocrisy."

"NYT #FAKENEWS: I did NOT pursue a business opportunity in Ukraine, as they misrepresented," the president's lawyer tweeted Wednesday night. "I could have helped them recover $7B in stolen money, but I didn't. Was paid ZERO.

"They attack me because I have exposed their hypocrisy & how they covered up Biden's massive corruption!"

In an interview with the Times on the same day, Giuliani said a Ukrainian official sought to hire him earlier this year, but claimed to have rejected the offer and a subsequent, separate deal with the Ukrainian government.

President Trump's attorney added: "I thought that would be too complicated. I never received a penny."

21John5918
des. 1, 2019, 12:35pm

Legal storm clouds gather over Rudy Giuliani, America's tarnished mayor (Guardian)

Analysts say an indictment is likely as prosecutors focus on Giuliani’s work for Trump and himself in Ukraine

23margd
des. 13, 2019, 10:17am

Rebecca Ballhaus @rebeccaballhaus | 8:35 AM · Dec 13, 2019:

New:
When Giuliani returned from Kyiv on Sat,
Trump called him as his plane was still taxiing & asked:
“What did you get?”
Giuliani replied: “More than you can imagine.”

W/@bykowicz @tggrove 8:35 AM · Dec 13, 2019
on Giuliani doubling down, even as friends urged him to lay low:

‘Just Having Fun’: Giuliani Doubles Down on Ukraine Probes
Rudy Giuliani is escalating his push for Ukraine to conduct investigations, undeterred by federal prosecutors probing his business dealings and an impeachment inquiry into his client, President Trump.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/just-having-fun-giuliani-doubles-down-on-ukraine-pr...

24John5918
des. 18, 2019, 12:19pm

ON EVE OF IMPEACHMENT VOTE, GIULIANI CALLS UP NEW YORK TIMES TO INCRIMINATE TRUMP (Vanity Fair)

For those of you who didn’t go to law school, the thing about defense attorneys is that, in most cases, they’re not supposed to make their client look guilty, even if said client is guilty as hell. Most lawyers seem to understand how this works—and then you have Rudy Giuliani, personal attorney to the president. The former New York City mayor famously started telling the media about the plot to extort Ukraine months before the impeachment scandal was even a twinkle in Adam Schiff’s eye, and on Monday, as the House prepped a vote to impeach Donald Trump later this week, Giuliani chose to call up the New York Times and tell reporter Kenneth Vogel that Trump was part of the scheme to remove former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, whom he saw as an impediment to getting the country to investigate Joe Biden.

Giuliani is notably not being paid for his legal work for the president, but if he were he might have just introduced the concept of negative billable hours...

25margd
des. 24, 2019, 8:54am

Uh oh

A Conversation With Rudy Giuliani Over Bloody Marys at the Mark Hotel
Olivia Nuzzi

...Over a sweater, he wore a navy-blue suit, the fly of the pants unzipped.

...When his mouth closed, saliva leaked from the corner and crawled down his face through the valley of a wrinkle. He didn’t notice, and it fell onto his sweater...

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/a-conversation-with-rudy-giuliani-over-bl...

262wonderY
gen. 21, 2020, 9:55am

Rudy is "heartbroken"

Rudy Giuliani says Lev Parnas 'misled' him and 'lied stupidly'

Speaking to Fox News host Laura Ingraham on Monday night, Giuliani, President Trump's personal lawyer, said he was once "close to" Parnas, but was "misled by him."

Giuliani told Ingraham he would not discuss all of Parnas' accusations, but did deny ever talking about his Ukraine investigation with Barr and said Parnas' account of a meeting during a 2018 White House Hanukkah party was a lie. In November, CNN reported that Parnas told two people close to him that during the celebration, Trump let Parnas and Fruman know he wanted them to go on a "secret mission" to Ukraine to investigate the Bidens. Giuliani said this was "absolutely untrue," as they were never pulled into a private meeting.

Parnas posted a photo taken at the party on social media, showing him posing with Trump, Giuliani, Fruman, and Vice President Mike Pence.

272wonderY
gen. 21, 2020, 10:11am

Jonathan Mahler posts an in-depth look at Rudy over the decades in today's NYT. It's worth a full read. I'm only posting some of his general conclusions here:

The Fog of Rudy

To me, the answer to the question ‘‘What happened to Rudy?’’ had come to seem obvious: Nothing. Rather, Giuliani’s latest role — as the president’s letting-it-all-hang-out, unabashedly dishonest personal lawyer and shadow secretary of state — is more like a culmination, the purest expression of Rudyism yet. What has changed is that Giuliani’s style has become the dominant mode of American — and, really, global — politics.

Personality-wise, Giuliani is a throwback to an old New York type, perhaps best embodied by William Magear Tweed, a.k.a. Boss Tweed, another swaggering, domineering figure from the city’s past. But men like Tweed were creatures of their old-fashioned political machines, while Giuliani was among the first of a new breed, a publicity-obsessed, reality-defying master of resentment politics — that is, just the kind of figure who is now ascendant across the globe in the form of strongmen, oligarchs and even populist Tories. These are not men of vision, but men of appetites. They are typically unrefined and streetwise; they practice their populism with a knowing wink, issuing fact-indifferent, emotion-based appeals to their constituents, while focusing, with impunity, on consolidating their power, satisfying their hungers and enriching themselves. The evolution of the modern media facilitated their rise, and the unregulated platforms of social media have now eliminated the final barrier to their ascension. ‘‘Without Twitter, I think we’d be lost,’’ Trump told Rush Limbaugh just this month. ‘‘We wouldn’t be able to get the truth out.’’

The real question is perhaps not ‘‘What happened to Rudy?’’ It’s ‘‘What happened to us?’’

The ability to move through the world like Giuliani does — without concern for consequences — is a gift; one that endows those who possess it with a power that others will invariably want to tap. Trump must have known exactly what to expect when he hired Giuliani as his personal lawyer, and it’s exactly what he got.

Did Rudy Giuliani know exactly what he was doing? He is not a would-be Machiavellian political philosopher in the mode of Karl Rove. Nor did his actions reveal some sophisticated or even cohesive legal strategy. Watching his invariably viral TV performances, it often felt as if the closest thing to a unifying explanation for his behavior was his pronounced inability to experience shame. Shamelessness is not an art or even a skill. It’s simply a way of operating in the world that informs all of your actions and interactions, for good or ill.

It’s a state of mind that he shares not only with Trump but also with a growing number of blatantly dishonest, nakedly opportunistic political figures.

29margd
oct. 16, 2020, 11:37am

White House was warned Giuliani was target of Russian intelligence operation to feed misinformation to Trump
Shane Harris, Ellen Nakashima, Greg Miller and Josh Dawsey | Oct. 15, 2020

U.S. intelligence agencies warned the White House last year that President Trump’s personal lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani was the target of an influence operation by Russian intelligence, according to four former officials familiar with the matter.

The warnings were based on multiple sources, including intercepted communications, that showed Giuliani was interacting with people tied to Russian intelligence during a December 2019 trip to Ukraine, where he was gathering information that he thought would expose corrupt acts by former vice president Joe Biden and his son Hunter.

The intelligence raised concerns that Giuliani was being used to feed Russian misinformation to the president, the former officials said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive information and conversations...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/giuliani-biden-ukraine-russian-...

30margd
oct. 21, 2020, 1:40pm

Rudy Giuliani faces questions after compromising scene in new Borat film
Trump’s personal attorney has indiscreet encounter with actor playing Borat’s daughter in hotel room during pandemic
Catherine Shoard | 21 Oct 2020 12.00 EDT

The reputation of Rudy Giuliani could be set for a further blow with the release of highly embarrassing footage in Sacha Baron Cohen’s follow-up to Borat.

In the film, released on Friday (Oct 23, 2020?), the former New York mayor and current personal attorney to Donald Trump is seen reaching into his trousers and apparently touching his genitals while reclining on a bed in the presence of the actor playing Borat’s daughter, who is posing as a TV journalist.

Following an obsequious interview for a fake conservative news programme, the pair retreat at her suggestion for a drink to the bedroom of a hotel suite, which is rigged with concealed cameras.

After she removes his microphone, Giuliani, 76, can be seen lying back on the bed, fiddling with his untucked shirt and reaching into his trousers. They are then interrupted by Borat who runs in and says: “She’s 15. She’s too old for you.”

...Even before he reaches into his trousers, Giuliani does not appear to acquit himself especially impressively during the encounter. Flattered and flirtatious, he drinks scotch, coughs, fails to socially distance and claims Trump’s speedy actions in the spring saved a million Americans from dying of Covid. He also agrees – in theory at least – to eat a bat with his interviewer...

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/oct/21/rudy-giuliani-faces-questions-after...

31margd
nov. 8, 2020, 2:26pm

Meanwhile at Four Seasons Total Landscaping, the President's lawyers hold forth...

chris @MrTooDamnChris | 12:44 PM · Nov 7, 2020:
press conference is going great

0:36 ( https://twitter.com/MrTooDamnChris/status/1325131940630917120 )
From One Walleee - No Surrender

32mamzel
nov. 8, 2020, 2:41pm

I heard this venue was next door to a crematorium and across the street from a porn shop. Can't even use Google street view?

33margd
Editat: nov. 8, 2020, 3:05pm

>32 mamzel: Websites for the crematorium and adult book store are still live.
(Crematorium looks nice.)

Four Seasons Total Landscaping:
7347 State Rd., Philadelphia, PA 19136

Philadelphia Crematories across the street:
7350 State Rd., Philadelphia, PA 19136
https://www.philadelphiacrematories.com/about-us.aspx

Fantasy Island next door:
7363 State Rd., Philadelphia, PA 19136
https://www.facebook.com/FantasyIslandAdultBookstore/

Incidentally, the crematorium and the adult book store are both rated five stars, but the landscape company only three. :D
Maybe that's why the website is offline: yelp reviews etc. declined with attention.
https://billypenn.com/2020/11/08/four-seasons-total-landscaping-yelp-t-shirts-tr...

34MsMixte
Editat: nov. 8, 2020, 3:59pm

>32 mamzel: According to the NYT:

"In reality, the mistake was not in the booking, but in a garbled game of telephone. Mr. Giuliani and the Trump campaign adviser Corey Lewandowski told the president on Saturday morning their intended location for the news conference and he misunderstood, assuming it was an upscale hotel, according to multiple people familiar with the matter.

But the campaign had always intended to hold the news conference in a friendlier part of town. The president’s team had struggled with news conferences in this Democratic stronghold all week. Since Wednesday, the streets outside of the Convention Center have been filled with pro-Biden protesters chanting, “Count every vote!” On multiple occasions, the Trump campaign surrogates were drowned out and surrounded by the much larger pro-Biden crowd.

Earlier this week, Pam Bondi, the former attorney general of Florida, and Mr. Lewandowski attempted to hold a celebratory news conference after obtaining a favorable court order in Pennsylvania. But a local D.J. blasting Beyoncé completely overpowered Ms. Bondi, who was forced to simply hold up the order as most of the media gathered nearby could not hear her speaking.

Dan Scavino, the keeper of the presidential Twitter feed and a deputy White House chief of staff for communications, eventually tweeted out the corrective, people familiar with the event said, while White House officials overall were rolling their eyes and dismissing the entire embarrassing episode as another “Rudy special.”"

352wonderY
nov. 8, 2020, 5:13pm

I saw that someone on Twitter quipped that it was in keeping with Yrumps theme of ‘lawn order.’

36Limelite
nov. 8, 2020, 9:27pm

Not the kind of error(?) one expected from a pair of attention whores like Trump and Rudy, no? Someone got lost "in the weeds"?

37lriley
nov. 8, 2020, 10:13pm

There's an easy answer to why Giuliani's press conference was at Four Season's Landscaping and not at the Four Season's Hotel. He's a member in good standing of Fantasy Island and this was like one stop shopping for him.

38Limelite
nov. 9, 2020, 1:42am

>37 lriley:

There's an even easier answer. The hotel demanded the money up front. Neither Trump nor Julie Annie has any money.

39Limelite
nov. 9, 2020, 4:18pm

What It Looks Like When Winners Become LOSERS

Quite a steep descent for Trump's presidential meteorite from floating down the golden escalator to announce "Only I can save America," in his luxurious NYC Trump Tower to his personal lawyer screaming, "Voter Fraud! Awk!! Awk!!" in an empty parking lot sandwiched between a porn store and a crematorium in Philly after he loses his bid for re-election.

When you think about it, though. . .Sure is fitting.

40Limelite
nov. 9, 2020, 4:25pm

Need a Lawyer? Hire "Da Man Who Can"

Who better than. . .
?

41lriley
Editat: nov. 9, 2020, 4:52pm

#38--maybe it's both. Julie Annie thinking 'we can't afford the press conference at the hotel but if we can do it at the landscaping company I can stop off next door afterwards and get a blow up doll and a dildo for on the way home'.

42Limelite
nov. 9, 2020, 5:26pm

>41 lriley:

Drive Thru or Takeout?

43lriley
Editat: nov. 9, 2020, 5:36pm

#42--probably drive thru.

.......turns out as well that one of the poll watchers who spoke at Rudy's landscaping event and claimed there were some biases going on was a New Jersey (not Philadelphia as in Pennsylvania) man named Darrell Brooks and that this Brooks did more than 3 years in prison for exposing himself to a 10 and an 11 year old girl some years ago. As usual you can't beat the Trump administration or even Rudy himself for always finding the best people. The guy in the undershorts and Biden mask yapping about George Soros wasn't the craziest person at Rudy's clown show.

44margd
nov. 11, 2020, 8:31am

0:30 BBC coverage :)
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1326484502231871488

(That's the most amused I've ever seen that news announcer. His eye were twinkling! )

45margd
nov. 11, 2020, 10:45am

Lincoln Project's theory on how this particular Four Seasons came to be chosen:

cartoon ( https://twitter.com/scripta_bene/status/1326533304238092289/photo/1 )

46mamzel
nov. 11, 2020, 1:46pm

>44 margd: Thanks for this link! Gave me a good laugh after just deciding against traveling to see my 88-year old father.

47margd
nov. 11, 2020, 5:27pm

>46 mamzel: Good decision, I think. (Hope he does, too!) We spent a month in a township that has yet to have a case, and the worry that we might bring COVID in was always on our minds.

48mamzel
nov. 12, 2020, 2:57pm

>47 margd: I live in a relatively small community (16 deaths in the county) and the prospect of three airports and two planes, TWICE, became just way too risky. I'm looking forward to maybe, by some miracle, being vaccinated by February and flying down for his birthday.
I hope more people come to the same realization and curb their travel plans too.

49lriley
Editat: nov. 19, 2020, 1:29pm

I guess Rudy dies what's left of his hair. It's running down the side of his face.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ominous-black-goo-oozes-from-rudy-giulianis-he...

50davidgn
Editat: nov. 19, 2020, 2:11pm

>49 lriley: The trouble is, though, he's going full-tilt Big Lie. He takes the worst nightmare scenario of the worst that can go wrong with digital voting machines, spins it to appeal to the hardcore Trumpist base, and lies so massively, he's sure to be widely believed. And all he has to do is keep insisting that the "real" smoking gun is "coming," meanwhile ladling out enough thin-gruel evidence to keep his audience enraptured, until January.

This is a very grim scenario. They're not going to back down.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/trump-news-li...

51lriley
nov. 19, 2020, 5:47pm

#50--I understand very well what he's trying to pull off. It's meritless cases from Pennsylvania to Michigan to Wisconsin to Arizona and to Nevada---precisely aimed at keeping their idiotic base stirred up. I also would not be surprised if someone or numbers of people end up murdered over this. They don't care. Giuliani though is a clown just as much as Trump is a clown.

52margd
nov. 20, 2020, 4:58am

What a week the President's lawyer(!) has had--Borat "sexy time", Four Seasons Landscaping, running hair dye...

The Recount @therecount | 3:29 PM · Nov 19, 2020:
Rudy Giuliani, the president's lawyer.
Rudy's Sweaty Briefing
0:30 ( https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329522155135045638 )

53Earthling1
nov. 20, 2020, 9:37am

Can you hear me, Major Tom?
Can you hear me, Major Tom?

55bohemima
nov. 20, 2020, 11:20am

Don’t you love it when trolls run out of things to say, and just repeat nonsense in an attempt to interrupt threads?

56lriley
Editat: nov. 20, 2020, 12:12pm

Brownish black goo running down both sides of his face while he's ranting incoherently. In any other year the white padded truck would be showing up and a couple burly guys with butterfly nets would be hauling him away to the insane asylum. This is the president's go to lawyer.

What's next--pissing or shitting his pants or just yanking his junk out in public? Just asking for our right wingy friends here--it would seem only right that they have an idea what they're going to be asked to defend next.

57Limelite
nov. 20, 2020, 2:53pm

Right Wing National Review Says, Believing Giuliani Means Taking an Insanity Oath"

They're called "faud-pillers," the ones who have swallowed a pill that lets them believe and promote election fraud, and live in the Land of Trumpian Denial of reality. It's a lunatic fringe sub-cult of the lunatic fringe RWNJ Trump cult. Swallow the pill and take the oath, and you too can be like Rudy Julie Annie.

“Allegiance to a plain insanity is a good test of loyalty, like being beat-in during a gang initiation,” he concludes. “It marks you in a way that makes you less suitable as an object for the Left’s blandishments. It demonstrates ‘commitment’ or heart. Shared insanity can make people loyal to each other, sure. But it does so by rendering them useless or repulsive to the normal and decent people who need champions.”
If you don't join the Insanity Oathers, then you're labeled a Vichy-con.

What we're witnessing is the coming civil war's first rumblings. Only, instead of targeting anti-fa and Democratic activists and politicians, this far bloodier war of attrition is going to take down the Republican Party because most of them (70-80%) have become fraud-pillers and have no tolerance for the governance wing of what used to be the Republican Party.

58Earthling1
nov. 20, 2020, 4:08pm

Meltdown on aisle five.

59bohemima
nov. 20, 2020, 8:22pm

>57 Limelite: I think we are witnessing the most brazen and blatant attempt to highjack an election that I’ve seen in this country.

I remain optimistic, however. Mr. Trump and his coterie lose, and lose daily and severally, in the courts. And they will continue to lose.

If there were actual evidence it would have been produced in court by now.

Georgia has certified that state’s election results. Mr. Biden won there. Michigan election overseers won’t change their minds, despite Mr. Trumps attempt to suborn them.

The disgust we all feel, witnessing this— and the culpable negligence of powerful congressional Repblicans won’t be soon forgotten.

But we’ll move on. I hope some lessons will be learned about how easily people can be led to disbelieve the evidence of their own eyes.

60Earthling1
nov. 20, 2020, 9:57pm

"If there were actual evidence it would have been produced in court by now"

Nope.

61bohemima
Editat: nov. 21, 2020, 7:36am

Here Mr. Giuliani blames Venezuelan-made voting machines, somehow connected with the late Hugo Chavez, of “rigging the election” for Mr. Biden.

https://www.newsweek.com/giuliani-claims-allies-venezuelan-government-manipulate...

Evidence provided, here or in court?
Zero

62bohemima
nov. 21, 2020, 7:46am

And here, with a clip from the Hannity show, we see Mr. Giuliani perform several flights of fantasy:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/11/20/giuliani-foxs-hannity-some...

He’s now switched to blaming unknown Germans or a German company for somehow orchestrating fake ballots for Mr. Biden.

Evidence presented: None

Then, in that well-known Republican tactic called “mirroring”, he says the Democratic Party has been “taken over by Clinton.” He didn’t specify which Clinton he was talking about. He then goes on to say they are “bad people.”

Evidence presented: None

Certainly there are people engaging in flights of fantasy. They are not, however, the people who look at the popular and the electoral vote, and say the Mr. Trump won the election.

Evidence provided for that particular claim: None

63Earthling1
nov. 21, 2020, 9:25am

>61 bohemima: You think a court case lasts 30 seconds? Do you know anything at all about the law? Ever have jury duty? Remember the OJ trial? It lasted a year. Remember?

Here's Jenna Ellis:

"So what you've heard now is basically an opening statement. This is what you can expect to see when we get to court, to actually have a full trial on the merits. To actually show this evidence in court and prove our case. This is not a "Law & Order" episode where everything is neatly wrapped up in 60 minutes. For those of you who are here in this room or maybe tuned out in other networks, clearly you have never been court reporters. Trials take time. Putting on evidence takes time. This is basically an opening statement so the American people can understand what the networks have been hiding and what they refuse to cover, because all of your fake news headlines are dancing around the merits of this case and are trying to delegitimize what we're doing here."

Thinking is a lost art.

64Earthling1
nov. 21, 2020, 9:28am

You know nothing about evidence or proof, how to try a case or examine a case. I took law in school. I've been called to jury duty. I was working for a newspaper during the OJ trial. I have friends who are lawyers and judges and who teach at a fairly well known law school.

Not that any of this is necessary to keep an open mind. But it helps.

65Earthling1
nov. 21, 2020, 9:30am

I would never question a man who built his reputation pursuing the mob. That's more than brave. It's a deathwish. Only foolish people are calling Giulani names now. It's foolishness.

66bohemima
Editat: nov. 21, 2020, 3:11pm

>5 lriley: Honestly, the kindest thing one can say is that too much drinking has affected his ability to think and speak rationally, especially given his latest Hannity disaster.

67Molly3028
Editat: nov. 22, 2020, 11:51am

I wonder if Trump, the life-long con man and cult personality, ever sits back
and thinks about how around-the-bend people have to be to believe the
horsesh*t he has been spreading for well over 4 years?

68bohemima
nov. 21, 2020, 5:35pm

If he does p, he laughs and laughs and laughs.

The scary thing is that I think he says all that garbage so often that he comes to half-believe it himself. And no one dares to tell him otherwise.

69Earthling1
nov. 21, 2020, 9:19pm

"too much drinking has affected his ability to think"

Prove that.

70Molly3028
Editat: nov. 22, 2020, 11:50am

Trump had the presidential infamy market cornered way before November 3,
2020. His descendants will be reminded by all the history books about this
family fact for the rest of this century and beyond.

71mamzel
nov. 22, 2020, 3:43pm

Not to mention the shade thrown on his father for creating this monster.

72Limelite
nov. 22, 2020, 7:42pm

My sympathy in this whole kabuki performance is totally with the judges who must feel more like barroom bouncers than jurists, they've thrown so many of Trump's lawyers out of their courtrooms.

It must hurt their professional emotions to realize dolts like that are allowed to practice law when they themselves actually know the law and how it works from both sides of adversarial plaintiff/defendant positions. Yet, here are these idiots who can't even file a coherent motion or figure out that state laws of states they aren't filing in don't apply, so don't cite and use them.

Un. Be. Lieve. A. Ble.

73Molly3028
Editat: nov. 22, 2020, 8:07pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/527105-giuliani-distances-trump-campaign-f...

Giuliani distances Trump campaign from attorney Sidney Powell

Sidney fit right in with the other lunatics on the Trump legal team ~
Rudy Giuliani, Joseph diGenova, Victoria Toensing and Jenna Ellis.

74lriley
nov. 22, 2020, 10:00pm

Sidney dropped her bombs and got her 15 minutes of fame. She's this year's version of Sarah Palin.

75Molly3028
Editat: nov. 24, 2020, 10:26am

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-posts-series-of-bewildering-deranged-videos...
Trump Posts Series of Bewildering, Deranged Videos From Actor Randy Quaid — And a Call to ‘Re-Vote’ the 2020 Election

The Trump era has been a scary voyage into the minds, hearts and souls of
a mentally challenged cult leader and his clueless cult followers.

76Molly3028
Editat: nov. 24, 2020, 12:36pm

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/pro-trump-rep-favorably-compares-self-to-nazi-...
Pro-Trump Rep Favorably Compares Self to Nazi-Allied Soldiers Who Kept Fighting WW2 Decades After it Ended

This GOP dude is comparing himself favorably with a guy who remained
clueless for almost three decades!

As IMUS use to say ~ "you can't make this sh*t up"

77lriley
nov. 24, 2020, 1:25pm

Gosar's (and Cernovich's) knowledge and understanding of history is pretty bad. The American strategy in the Pacific War was to island hop and there were cases of Japanese soldiers on smaller islands who went on and on for decades not even realizing the war was over because nobody told them otherwise and/or nobody came to get them.

Gosar is an absolute tea party idiot as it is and should have stuck with dentistry.

78margd
nov. 24, 2020, 1:34pm

Trumpians always identify with America's enemies--the Confederacy, the Empire of Japan?

79Limelite
Editat: des. 3, 2020, 10:59pm

The Julie Annie Clown Show Must Go On!

Question: This time in Georgia. When is state election fraud not state election fraud?

Answer: When it's hearsay about what went on in states other than Georgia when the hearing is about Georgia election fraud.

At that hearing,
Trump campaign’s star witnesses, Retired Army Col. Phil Waldron, was on the receiving end of a grilling by state Democratic Senator Jen Jordan over his testimony and a video that claims to show ballots being “pulled from under a table” after poll workers were allegedly told to leave the room.

Jordan asked Waldron if he was indeed suggesting that the ballots represented in the video were somehow fraudulent, to which Waldron replied that “we do have affidavits of people who trucked in ballots from out of state into other states…”

“And to be clear — into Georgia?” Jordan interjected.
I leave you to guess Waldron's answer to that most pertinent inquiry. But if you're not confident of your guess, just follow the link to the full story. I'll just say that this witness was no different from drunk blonde lady who's videoed "testimony" during Julie Annie's attempts to shut her up has gone viral.

The GA Sec'y of State said about this year's election -- no evidence of election or voter fraud in GA 2020 election. I believe him.

80lriley
des. 3, 2020, 10:39pm

#79---it's collective hysterical insanity that's being peddled and I think there are more than a few bad actors who are doing this just for attention. They see a chance to become a local hero and it's not all that different from stolen valor where someone parades around in a uniform he/she never wore. This is a call out for every poser in the land.

82kiparsky
des. 4, 2020, 1:50am

>81 davidgn: That's... um... pretty remarkable.

I can only imagine that Giuliani brought her in so he'd look sane by comparison?

83Limelite
des. 4, 2020, 6:26pm

>81 davidgn:, >82 kiparsky:

Not even that witness can make Julie Annie look good. Running hair dye down the side of his face completely destroyed his image permanently.

When you hire only the best people, then they go to court with the witnesses they've got, not the witnesses they may want to have, you end up where Julie Annie is.

It's the Republican way of going places.

84kiparsky
des. 4, 2020, 7:52pm

>83 Limelite: Running hair dye down the side of his face completely destroyed his image permanently.

Seriously? Is that what did it? I would have thought it was when he chose to represent Donald Trump's clinically insane claims of election fraud, and set about to further undermine the next administration's efforts to restore America after four years of catastrophic misrule. At least, that's what did it for me.

I'm reminded of David Mitchell's comments about one or another British politician, on some panel show - something to the effect of "I don't understand why we're all here making fun of her appearance. The thing that's horrible about this person isn't that she doesn't look nice, it's that she's a horrible person with horrible policies. Can't we talk about that instead?"

85Limelite
Editat: des. 4, 2020, 9:27pm

Oh, dear. The humorless police.

I would have thought it was when he tried to bribe Ukrainians to come to the US and testify that Joe Biden and son had been engaged in non-existent corruption in their country so that Donald Trump could smear the man who would defeat him in Nov. 2020 election with character assassinating lies. You know, accuse and frame his innocent enemy of exactly the kind of crime he was doing.

I mean if its all about moral purity and not about poking fun, then at least pick the most evil thing Julie Annie has done.

We're not talking about how the guy looks. We're talking about his ineptitude in everything he attempts, including coloring his hair. After all, hair dye isn't intended to be applied to the skin of the face.
_______________
"Clown Act" I think the topic is.

86Earthling1
des. 4, 2020, 11:34pm

Calling this man a clown, after all he's done, is pathetic.

87Earthling1
des. 4, 2020, 11:39pm

Democrats have no depth. They concentrate on surface, hence the obsession with Giuliani's hair dye, if that's what it was. Here around that same time we had an unusually warm Election Day. A divine warning? The presence of demonic forces? I suspect the temp was warm where he gave that speech. Petty people focus on petty things. He has a lisp, too. I guess that's funny to a certain kind of shriveled soul.

88davidgn
Editat: des. 4, 2020, 11:44pm

>87 Earthling1: Right. Because holding a press conference outside the Four Seasons Garden Center because your team didn't actually book the Four Seasons Hotel just totally screams competence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUlpJjR8rkU

89bohemima
Editat: des. 5, 2020, 8:23am

What’s indeed pathetic is what has happened to Giuliani the man. Agree with his politics or not, he certainly was a competent man.

And now he’s pathetically clinging to Trump’s rapidly shrinking coattails, apparently in an attempt to stay in the public eye by saying and doing anything, no matter how ludicrous. He’s making a mockery of himself. If others join in, that’s perhaps mean-spirited, but he’s the one giving them the opportunity.

His family should be ashamed of themselves for allowing this to happen. It will permanently tarnish whatever his good reputation was.

And *that* is pathetic.

Slightly edited for clarity

90Earthling1
des. 5, 2020, 9:57am

turning tables again, so original...

91kiparsky
des. 5, 2020, 11:41am

>89 bohemima: Agree with his politics or not, he certainly was a competent man.

Call no man competent until he is dead...

92bohemima
des. 5, 2020, 11:52am

LOL
Thank you for a day brightener.

93Limelite
des. 5, 2020, 4:39pm

Having no knowledge of the law, as proven by their overwhelming number of defeats and humiliations in court in myriad cases, has make Trump, Julie Annie, Lin Wood, and Sidney Powell substitute arrogance for competence. A behavioral "compensation" long recognized and commented on by others.

“As Bertrand Russell, the famous British mathematical philosopher and Nobel laureate, famously lamented in an essay condemning the rise of Nazi Germany, “the fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.”

― Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, Why Do So Many Incompetent Men Become Leaders?

94MsMixte
des. 6, 2020, 6:37pm

Poor Rudy, he's gone and gotten himself some Covid-19. Apparently in GWU Hospital.

I'm going to be nice and hope he gets better in about....45 days.

95kiparsky
des. 6, 2020, 7:37pm

>94 MsMixte: I hope he gets better soon...

...and also, that he gets over that Covid-19 as well.

96MsMixte
Editat: des. 6, 2020, 10:54pm

I'm wondering when Jenna Ellis will announce she has the virus. Also, does this mean that Squidney will get to rejoin the elite team?

Edit to add: Rudy managed to put the entire AZ legislature in quarantine. Way to go Rudy!

97aspirit
des. 6, 2020, 11:14pm

>96 MsMixte: I'm guessing the middle of this week for Jenna Ellis.

Another guess is that Rudy and his son have been spreading the virus in their political circles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/20/covid-19-son-of-trump-lawyer-rudy-giuliani-has-c...

KEY POINTS
. Andrew Giuliani, the son of Trump campaign top lawyer Rudy Giuliani and a special assistant to President Donald Trump, said he tested positive for coronavirus.
. A day earlier, he attended a crowded press conference led by his father, who was not wearing a mask as he claimed without evidence that widespread ballot fraud had rigged the election for Joe Biden.
. Rudy Giuliani and Jenna Ellis both tested negative for Covid-19, Ellis said on Twiter.

98margd
Editat: des. 7, 2020, 9:16am

That stinker reportedly felt ill on Friday.
Wednesday: Michigan Legislature hearing.
Thursday: Georgia.

Guiliani was asking $20,000 per day from Trump for legal ervices. Think he'd turn that down?

Now he's enjoying the best of treatments at Georgetown Pool & Hot Tub-- 'er, University Medical Center

99rastaphrog
des. 7, 2020, 9:41am

>98 margd: When I heard that he was already in the hospital, I was wondering when he might have actually started showing symptoms. Everything I've seen/heard says that other than tests done when someone is already showing symptoms, you don't go right into the hospital, and even then it wouldn't happen if they were mild.

100Molly3028
Editat: des. 7, 2020, 2:37pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/528990-arizona-legislature-shuts-down-a...
Arizona legislature shuts down after Giuliani tests positive for coronavirus

HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA,HA
Rudy is the cause of the closing of the legislative body
he needs action from to help Trump. As IMUS use to
say ~ you can't make this stuff up.

102lriley
des. 7, 2020, 4:01pm

Hasn't it always seemed like it was just a matter of time for poor Rudy? Living his life in denial of the realities around him. The Trump cult are so sure that it's the rest of the world that are drinking kool-aid. By no means am I a fan of Pelosi or Biden or Schumer but have any of them gotten Covid yet? It's not that no democratic politicians have gotten it but their numbers are far less than their Republican counterparts and the Republican talking point that no one dies from it anymore is belied by the 2000/3000 deaths we're seeing every day now. These politicians are going to get first class treatment in less than jam packed settings so maybe they won't die but your average nabob sucking up their bullshit is going to go into a overwhelmed hospital and his/her chances are more in the pot luck category. Money and power (let's just say your proto-capitalist) has its privileges.

103Limelite
des. 7, 2020, 6:21pm

Opinion Issued Today

The case for disbarring Giuliani and DiGenova.

Death threats, in DiGenova's case, designed to fan the flames that Trump threw gasoline on.

According to 25 DC Bar presidents, in Julie Annie's case, "lawyers may not falsely proclaim widespread voting fraud, submit a pattern of frivolous court claims and actively seek to undermine citizens’ faith in our election’s integrity without running afoul of ethical mandates."

104lriley
des. 7, 2020, 7:50pm

#103--is Julie Annie Rudy's alter ego who loves to dress in drag?

105aspirit
des. 8, 2020, 4:09pm

>97 aspirit: the rumors and fear about Ellis' infection are spreading.

https://www.axios.com/jenna-ellis-trump-lawyer-covid-2bab2624-0b25-4f47-a532-079...

Meanwhile, Giuliani gets "great care" that many Americans with COVID-19 will never get.

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-12-07-20-intl/h_8bde1c9...

106kiparsky
des. 8, 2020, 5:40pm

>105 aspirit: Huh. Renowned idiot gets contagious disease and shares it around? Oddly, I find that fairly plausible

107Limelite
des. 8, 2020, 6:34pm

>104 lriley:

Ding ding ding!!

108lriley
des. 8, 2020, 10:16pm

#107--anyone who has seen him put on that act has to know this guy is a real creep.

People go on about this guy--what happened to America's mayor? but he was always bad. Just because NYC got hit on 9-11 doesn't change that. The democratic version of him is Rahm Emmanuel though Emmanuel is slicker and smarter.

109margd
gen. 11, 10:01am

Inbox: New York State Bar Association moves to remove Rudy Giuliani from membership

- Josh Lederman @JoshNBCNews | 9:47 AM · Jan 11, 2021

110mamzel
gen. 11, 2:12pm

>109 margd: Was that before or after he announced he would be happy to represent trump during the impeachment?

111margd
gen. 11, 2:41pm

>110 mamzel: I think after, but...

George Conway @gtconway3d | 2:08 PM · Jan 11, 2021:
It's important to remember that the NYSBA does not license lawyers. In New York, that's done by the court system, by the four intermediate appellate tribunals in the state. So even if he's kicked out of the NYSBA, Giuliani would still be able to practice law.

But still, it ain't good for Rudy, and it's well deserved.

112margd
feb. 10, 7:12am

Exclusive: Ukraine Releases ‘Shock’ Call With Giuliani As Trump’s Second Impeachment Trial Begins
Simon Shuster | February 9, 2021

...The conversation on July 22, 2019, kicked off the campaign of intimidation that resulted in Trump’s first impeachment. For a year and half, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and his aides said little about their interactions with Giuliani, not wanting to anger an emissary of the U.S. President. But now, as the Trump era ends with a historic second impeachment trial, the Ukrainians have begun to speak up about the circumstances that led to the first. They are also taking steps that could imperil Giuliani and his Ukrainian allies.

Igor Novikov, who served as a close adviser to Zelensky during Trump’s first impeachment, says he is willing to assist an ongoing federal investigation of Giuliani that is reportedly underway in New York, as well as a separate effort to strip Giuliani of his license to practice law. Zelensky’s government has taken legal action against Giuliani’s Ukrainian associates. And they have opened up to the media about the pressure campaign mounted by Trump and his allies. On Feb. 3, Novikov sent TIME a transcript of the Giuliani call, whose accuracy TIME has independently verified...

https://time.com/5937491/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-trump-impeachment/