DOCUMENTING 2020 Election and Voter Fraud

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DOCUMENTING 2020 Election and Voter Fraud

1Limelite
oct. 1, 2020, 7:31pm

Here's where posts that confirm REAL election crimes can be made and you comments regarding them.

Of course, posts should be restricted to citations from credible and reliable sources and posts that either are unsourced, or sourced from political propaganda organs, unsourced Twitter tweets, and baseless accusations, etc. -- like Trump's crap claim in Tuesday night's debate about "they dumped lots of ballots in the river" -- should not.

TEST for CREDIBILITY

Who's 'they'?
How many is 'lots'?
And where is this 'river'?

Questions that would have been answered in a legitimate report, such as those by the press asked of Kayleigh McEnany, illustrate the difference between unsubstantiated (Trump's claim lie) and substantiated. McEnany had no substantiating answer.

2Limelite
oct. 1, 2020, 7:44pm

"Law & Order" Republicans At It Again

Notorious GOP operatives charged with felonies for trying to trick people out of mail-in voting in Michigan. AG Nessel Files Felony Charges Against Jack Burkman, Jacob Wohl in Voter-Suppression Robocalls Investigation LANSING – Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel has filed charges today against two political operatives for allegedly orchestrating a series of robocalls aimed at suppressing the vote in the November general election.

Jack Burkman, 54, and Jacob Wohl, 22, are each charged with:

One count of election law – intimidating voters, a five-year felony;
One count of conspiracy to commit an election law violation, a five-year felony;
One count of using a computer to commit the crime of election law – intimidating voters, a seven-year felony; and
Using a computer to commit the crime of conspiracy, a seven-year felony.
(SNIP)
Burkman, an Arlington, Virginia resident, and Wohl, a Los Angeles, California resident, allegedly attempted to discourage voters from participating in the general election by creating and funding a robocall targeted at certain urban areas, including Detroit. The calls were made in late August and went out to nearly 12,000 residents with phone numbers from the 313 area code.
(SNIP)
The recorded robocall message warns people about being “finessed into giving your private information to the man” and urges them to “beware of vote by mail.”

The caller, who claims to be associated with an organization founded by Burkman and Wohl, falsely tells people that mail-in voting, in particular, will allow personal information to become part of a special database used by police to track down old warrants and by credit card companies to collect outstanding debts. The caller also deceptively claims the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention will use the information to track people for mandatory vaccines. However, none of that is true.

MORE on THIS STORY

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/01/jacob-wohl-jack-burkman-charged-voter-s...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/michigan-ag-files-felony-charges-again-jack-burkma...
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2020/10/01/republican-operatives-jacob...
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/519235-conservative-operatives-charged-...

EVEN MORE on THIS STORY

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Jack+Burkman+and+Jacob+...

3Limelite
oct. 12, 2020, 8:14pm

CA GOP Operatives Install Bogus Ballot Boxes Prompts State's AG, Xavier Becerra, to Send Cease and Desist Letter to State GOP
Republican party operations in Fresno, Los Angeles, and Orange County were busted for bamboozling voters with phony ballot drop boxes, which is totally a felony.
. . .collection boxes have been spotted at local political party offices, candidate headquarters. . .State GOP spokesman Hector Barajas said Monday the party owns the boxes. He declined to say how many exist or where they are located.

Unofficial ballot boxes discovered at Calif. gun shops, churches, Republican offices.
Secretary of State Alex Padilla said in a statement the boxes are not only misleading to voters but illegal. . .a list of "secure" ballot boxes posted by the Fresno County Republic Party are all unofficial, including ones listed at its own headquarters.

Official CA State Drop-Box USE NO OTHER

4mamzel
oct. 13, 2020, 3:38pm

In the California voter information guides for each county is a list of locations of official boxes. I would optimistically hope that all voters avail themselves of this excellent assistance to avoid falling for such a devious ploy. Shame, Republicans, shame!

5proximity1
Editat: oct. 14, 2020, 12:49pm

If you don't respect legitimate election-outcomes, you have no place--except that of a rank hypocrite-- to moan about voter fraud: You're the people whose "Get Out the Vote" program consists of advocating and defending the importation of illegal aliens to the United States: the better to enable these illegals to vote in favor of amnesties for scoff-laws and the relax rules of entry and residence.





6John5918
Editat: oct. 14, 2020, 7:05am

>5 proximity1:

Aren't you off topic here? Immigration and voter fraud are two completely different topics, yet you include them in the same sentence without any explanation of how you think they might be connected. Immigration certainly has nothing to with Republicans setting up fake ballot boxes.

7Limelite
oct. 14, 2020, 6:32pm

>5 proximity1:

The topic is ELECTION fraud -- that is not VOTER fraud, which is what you're ranting about. As you see, the only cases of DOCUMENTED ELECTION FRAUD are committed by REPUBLICANS.

To read more about REPUBLICAN PLOTTING to "do whatever it takes" to cheat in 2020, read the reprint of this WaPo investigation piece into machinations of the right wing "Council for national Policy" cabal. Link provided here because WaPo is behind firewall.

8Limelite
oct. 22, 2020, 1:05pm

Trump's Personal Army of Domestic Terrorists

Armed guards at Florida polling site say they were sent by the Trump campaign.
Two armed men set up a tent outside of an early voting location in St. Petersberg, Florida. . .

. . .the persons that were dressed in these security uniforms had indicated to sheriff’s deputies that they belonged to a licensed security company and they indicated. . .that they were hired by the Trump campaign,” said Pinellas County Supervisor of Elections Julie Marcus.

“Voter intimidation, deterring voters from voting, impeding a voter’s ability to cast a ballot in this election is unacceptable and will not be tolerated in any way shape, or form. . ."

It’s illegal to bring a gun to a polling place in Florida.


9Limelite
oct. 22, 2020, 7:09pm

Trump Supporter Arrested For Requesting Absentee Ballot For Dead Mother

The president accuses Democrats of “voter fraud,” but one of his supporters became the first person in a Pennsylvania county charged with the crime in 30 years.
A Luzerne County man is facing voter fraud charges Wednesday night. Investigators say he signed the name of his deceased mother to an absentee ballot application.

Luzerne County election officials say they notified the District Attorney’s office. Election officials say this is an example of how the system worked, how alleged fraud was spotted, and stopped.
(SNIP)
67-year-old Robert Richard Lynn from Forty Fort (was arrested) on voter fraud and forgery charges. According to Luzerne County detectives, Lynn admitted to signing the name of his mother to an application for an absentee ballot. The problem is she died in May of 2015.
(SNIP)
“It hurts everybody. You know, if you can’t be a straightforward election, then it just hurt everybody. Nobody wins if everyone can’t be honest,” said one person familiar with Lynn.

10Limelite
oct. 22, 2020, 7:31pm

Domestic Terrorism Suppresses & Threatens Free, Fair Elections

Pennsylvania Attorney General Warns Trump Campaign to Stop Videotaping Voters at the Polls
President Donald Trump’s campaign representatives have been filming voters in Philadelphia dropping off their ballots, but the Pennsylvania attorney general warned the Republican surrogates to stop Thursday. In a statement, Josh Shapiro, the Democratic state attorney general, said, “Pennsylvania law permits poll watchers to carry out very discrete and specific duties — videotaping voters at drop boxes is not one of them.”

11Limelite
Editat: oct. 24, 2020, 9:14pm

Pennsylvania polling place fell under a full out attack on those standing in line to vote and trying to cast a ballot on Saturday. Voter intimidation and Election interference is Election Fraud.
. . .a parade of semis and other cars surrounded the polling place, laying on their horns.

(Voter witness reported). . .“A motorcade of semis, jeeps, and a few sedans drove down the road. All honking. All flying Trump 2020 flags. With people yelling out the window. This motorcade snaked around the polling place the entire time I was there (2 hrs).”

“Election officials, who were extremely professional, could not give instructions to people in line because no one could hear them."

. . .police didn’t take action to protect the voters.
See this related story of coordinated violence by right wing extremist militias with the tacit consent of LE.

12John5918
oct. 25, 2020, 11:03am

Russia and Iran obtained US voter data in bid to sow unrest before election, FBI warns (Guardian)

In rare news conference, the director of national security says Iran has sent spoofed emails to intimidate voters...

Feds say Russia and Iran have interfered with the presidential election (CNN)

Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe said Wednesday both Iran and Russia have obtained US voter registration information in an effort to interfere in the election, including Iran posing as the far-right group Proud Boys to send intimidating emails to voters...

13Limelite
oct. 25, 2020, 8:21pm

Caught! On Video -- Election Arsonist!

Ballot collection site in Democratic enclave deliberately set on fire in ‘disgrace to democracy.’ Boston, a bastion of liberal Democrats has a barbarian inside the gate. At the Public Library in Copley Square early Sunday morning surveillance cameras caught an anti-big "D" and anti-little "d" firebug committing Election Fraud with fire.

The Perp


14margd
oct. 27, 2020, 5:47am

Jennifer Cohn (election security advocate) @jennycohn1 | 9:25 PM · Oct 26, 2020
https://twitter.com/jennycohn1/status/1320899384318439424
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1320899384318439424.html

Protect our votes! A GOP operative-turned-whistleblower says Karl Rove “once told her that election results can be manipulated...w/o undue suspicion so long as the preferred candidate is within 3% points of the targeted candidate in the final polls...’” 1/ https://justice-integrity.org/40-rove-vote-switching-empire-alleged-to-threaten-...

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3/ Poll tapes look like this. In many places they are posted publicly outside precincts on election night. This is ostensibly meant to provide transparency. But until recently, there have been only a few small efforts to photograph them & compare the totals 2 official totals.

You can sign up to help with #PhotoFinish (photographs of poll tapes, public records requests 4 places that don’t post tapes, and/or comparing poll tapes to reported totals) here. We explain everything & have state-specific slack rooms set up. TY. 4/

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15Isabel_Collier
oct. 27, 2020, 6:20am

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16Limelite
Editat: oct. 29, 2020, 6:00pm

Georgia Republican Felon Commits Fraudulent "Head Fake" in Order to Run for Office

Declares late as a Republican after. . .
Rivers previously registered with the Democratic Party three days before the election qualifying deadline, included a signed personal check for $750 made out to the Chatham County Democratic Party — from The Committee to Elect (Larry) "Gator" Rivers. The word “registration” appeared in the check’s memo line.
Republicans had waited and waited to file their complaint against Democrat Tony Riley (who would have been "Gator's opponent) for being unqualified. Riley was disqualified just before Rivers "flipped," on Oct. 27th. Democratic Party Chairman challenged "Gator's" qualifications in a letter.
". . Mr. Rivers has a history with multiple felonies inside and outside the state of Georgia. He has also been banned from places throughout the United States. Has the Chatham County Board of Elections researched this matter?”
Hell, no! It's a Republican county!

No information on what basis Democrat Riley was disqualified was provided in this story.

17John5918
oct. 29, 2020, 11:41pm

'To me, it's voter suppression': the Republican fight to limit ballot boxes (Guardian)

Election officials in US battleground states are still fighting to limit their usage with only days left until 3 November...

I'm trying to understand how anybody in a democracy can argue that making voting easier is a bad thing. Surely the aim is to encourage as many eligible electors as possible to cast their vote?

18lriley
oct. 30, 2020, 7:37am

#17........and we're the country supposedly exporting democracy everywhere else.

19John5918
oct. 31, 2020, 12:18am

The US election that doesn't count: Guam goes to the polls but votes won't matter (Guardian)

‘Now that I live in Guam, I cannot vote’. The first Americans to ‘vote’ on polling day have no say in who will be president...

20John5918
oct. 31, 2020, 12:55pm

A short satirical video: Honest USPS Ad

21John5918
Editat: nov. 3, 2020, 10:45pm

US election: Mystery robocalls urge voters to 'stay home' (BBC)

The FBI is investigating mysterious robocalls urging people across the US to stay home on election day. Millions of voters have reportedly received automated calls telling them to "stay safe and stay home"...

22Limelite
nov. 4, 2020, 4:39pm

BREAKING: BIDEN WINS MICHIGAN

With both WI and MI in his column, Biden pockets additional 26 electoral votes. Biden 253 - 214 Trump.

Trump WH Spreading False Election Results

Trump rages at Rupert Murdoch in phone call after the fascist network calls AZ for Biden. While Airhead

Trump sends bullies into Detroit election counting rooms to scream "Stop the Count" because actual counting of actual votes is too Sesame Street for cheaters who want to intimidate poll workers like was done in FL in 2000. Seeks to stop count entirely because Trump didn't get to change the rules and steal the vote before today.

USPS Postmaster Gen'l. attempts to perpetrate vote stealing by not postmarking received mail in tight race and swing states. Judge wants him to be deposed over missing ballots that DeJoy refused to search for following court ordered "sweep" in major metropolitan areas where vote by mail is favoring Biden.

The current Occupant goes full Putin, declaring election stolen from him, declaring self winner, and attempting to quash results that widen Biden's path to victory and narrow his own. What other American president has thrown around such specious drivel and made every effort to intimidate election officials, to suppress voters of color, to attempt to steal actual absentee ballots, and to undermine everything that is free and fair in our democratic election process.

23Limelite
Editat: nov. 4, 2020, 4:53pm

BREAKING: WAPO CALLS PA FOR TRUMP BY 0.7 PTS

20 electoral votes to Trump. Biden still leads EC.

Will Biden sue to contest the race?

24margd
nov. 5, 2020, 5:03am

Historical roots of 'voter fraud'. Another dog whistle?

Prof. Garrett Epps (Law U Baltimore) @Profepps | 5:11 PM · Nov 4, 2020:
https://twitter.com/Profepps/status/1324111937202913280
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1324111937202913280.html

For people who wonder why there's so much right-wing energy around "vote fraud," (a virtually nonexistent phenomenon) should glean a lesson from Southern history. During the rise of Jim Crow, it was necessary to disfranchise Black voters in the South./1

In order to do this, they came up with the argument that Black voters were poor and ignorant and were either bribed or duped to vote as a bloc against their "true friends."/2

This came to be called "fraudulent" voting--the idea being that no genuine choice was being made. At one point in the South during Civil Rights, a county judge convened a grand jury to haul Black people in and demand to know why they all voted for the same candidate./3

If that has a familiar ring, remember that as a US Attorney Jeff Sessions had elderly black voters arrested and brought before a grand jury to explain why their registrations *weren't* "fraudulent."/4

I knew Jesse Helms and he was not self-conscious about assuming that votes in Durham County (high Black population) were "fraudulent."/5

So the attempt to shut down counting in Detroit isn't really useful for Trump to _win_ (he's already ahead) but to create a legend that votes in Detroit (hmm, what's special about Detroit?) were "stolen" and that's why he lost./6

As Faulkner said, the past isn't dead, it's not even past./7

25bohemima
Editat: nov. 5, 2020, 10:14am

Note the absence from our right wing correspondents, now that all available documented evidence of election fraud show Republicans breaking the law/rules.

Funny how that works out, isn’t it?

26Limelite
nov. 5, 2020, 6:36pm

The "historical roots" of voter fraud are few and shallow and all grow in the dirt where the Republican Party is planted. Ever since that conspiracy theory began life.

In PA, the ONLY case of voter fraud seen in any election there this year for which the government has seen EVIDENCE is the case of the Republican Ijit who applied for an absentee ballot for his DEAD mother.

In this election NATIONWIDE, the ONLY case of voter fraud for which the government has evidence was perpetrated by TRUMP when he called on NC voters to vote TWICE.

End of factual history lesson.

27John5918
nov. 6, 2020, 2:05pm

US election 2020: Donald Trump's speech fact-checked (BBC)

President Trump spoke early on Friday about the US election count, making a number of accusations of fraud for which he did not provide evidence. We've fact-checked some of his claims...

28Limelite
nov. 13, 2020, 5:34pm

BUSTED: Voter fraud ‘witness’ admits in court that his business partner is the Trump campaign’s lawyer.

A fascinating scene unfolded in an AZ court.
Trump Campaign Lawyer Admits to Judge: Our Search for Evidence of Fraud Produced Obvious Lies and ‘Spam’" https://t.co/iIy9SIIaxL @lawcrimenews

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) November 12, 2020

. . .multiple witnesses were unable to substantiate allegations of election fraud, Trump campaign attorney Zack Alcyone called witness Kory Langhofer — who was forced to admit under cross-examination that the two are business partners.

The two "perps" of attempted fraud of voter fraud. Witness on the L, lawyer on the R.

29Limelite
nov. 13, 2020, 5:40pm

More Trump & Media Attempted Fraud of Voter Fraud

OAN forced to delete fake story about voter fraud — after Trump promotes the conspiracy theory.
. . .OAN reported that Dominion Voting Systems may have been behind an effort to switch as many as 435,000 votes from Trump to President-elect Joe Biden.
“REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion @OANN

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 12, 2020

OAN cited a report they said came from Edison Research that confirms the voter fraud. The problem, however, is that Edison Research has never heard of this report.. . .(but) Edison Research wasn’t even part of an effort to examine voter fraud.
(SNIP)
We created no such report that OAN referred to and we are not aware of any voter fraud,” said Edison Research President Larry Rosin.

30John5918
nov. 13, 2020, 10:31pm

Officials condemn Trump's false claims and say election 'most secure in US history' (Guardian)

The presidential election was the “most secure in American history” with no evidence that votes were compromised or altered, a coalition of federal and state officials has said, offering the clearest repudiation yet of Donald Trump’s false claims of fraud. The statement backed repeated assurances by experts and state officials that, despite the coronavirus pandemic and record numbers of voters, the election went smoothly without irregularities...

31Limelite
nov. 16, 2020, 6:25pm

Lindsey Graham Commits ACTUAL Election Fraud

Georgia’s Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, revealed in an interview that Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) pressured him to toss thousands of valid ballots — and even suggested blocking entire counties from having their mail-in ballots counted.
Raffensperger … said he spoke on Friday to Graham, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. . .

“In their conversation, Graham questioned Raffensperger about the state’s signature-matching law and whether political bias could have prompted poll workers to accept ballots with nonmatching signatures, according to Raffensperger. Graham also asked whether Raffensperger had the power to toss all mail ballots in counties found to have higher rates of nonmatching signatures, Raffensperger said.”

“Raffspenger said he was stunned that Graham appeared to suggest that he find a way to toss legally cast ballots,” said the report. . .Raffensperger doesn’t have the power to do what Graham suggested, as counties administer elections in Georgia. ‘It sure looked like he was wanting to go down that road,’ he said.”
As Sec'y. of State and supervisor of the legal conduct of elections, he ought to know when he sees a "duck." Why else would a senator from SC who happens to be Trump's biggest a$$ kisser call a state level government official in Georgia and talk about possibilities of changing election outcomes, if he didn't want that official to do something to make the outcome of the 2020 election changed to be favorable to the a$$ he always kisses?

I can find no historical record that Lady Lindsey ever called to try to get Republican Gov. Brian Kemp, then the Sec'y. of State in control of that very election, to stop suppressing the vote and committing the election fraud he was engaged in that gave him the win. That didn't turn a hair on his carefully sprayed head.

32Limelite
Editat: nov. 17, 2020, 3:59pm

Lindsey Graham Commits ACTUAL Election Fraud II

Well, it's not just my opinion anymore. Wonder how AG Bill Barr is going to react. Isn't this EXACTLY the kind of election naughtiness he sicced the FBI onto pursuing a week ago today? The Secretary of State for Georgia (Republican) is a credible claimant, I should think. Bet Barr doesn't move a muscle, hoping the ground will open and swallow him up about now.
This is both outrageous and should be investigated by the Senate Ethics Committee. https://t.co/7Xkp7aQN0v

— Marc E. Elias (@marceelias) November 16, 2020

and

Attn: AG Barr

Still searching for evidence of attempts to interfere with election? Appears that Senator Lindsey Graham should be investigated immediately. https://t.co/V1Q23G2NSY

— Kristen Clarke 866-OUR-VOTE (@KristenClarkeJD) November 16, 2020

and

Former FBI Special Agent:

So this seems like something that would come under the guidance Bill Barr recently gave DOJ to investigate 👀 https://t.co/QvKO3nUUIx

— Asha Rangappa (@AshaRangappa_) November 16, 2020
If you don't have a popcorn popper, run out and buy one right now.

33John5918
nov. 16, 2020, 11:06pm

Same story from the Guardian: Georgia’s secretary of state says Lindsey Graham suggested he throw out legal ballots

Brad Raffensperger says the Republican senator asked if he had the authority to toss out all mail-in ballots in certain counties...

34lriley
nov. 17, 2020, 12:55am

The degree of groveling sycophancy of Lindsey Graham is pretty stunning. He's outdone everybody. He will do anything to win the approval of Donald Trump. He literally kisses the ground that Donald walks upon. He'd shine Donald's shoes if Donald asked him to.

35margd
nov. 17, 2020, 2:08am

What happened to him? Lordy, Poutine must have tapes?

36lriley
Editat: nov. 17, 2020, 8:09am

It's interesting this signature argument. My signature looks nothing like it did 30 years ago and when I see it in their voting registrar--yeah I recognize it but my ability to reproduce it is gone. Today's signature is pretty much a real scrawl that really has its roots in signing shit because of credit cards instead of paying for everything in cash like I did for a long time. I would think I'm not the only one. You look at elderly people then-- or people who have developed Parkinson's in some form. The mail is a lifeline for a lot of elderly and working for the Post Office you'd have to often help older people make their addresses readable. Should they have their voting rights taken away because their signatures don't match from 40/50/60 years ago?

Donald wants to discredit everything and sow as much chaos as possible. This guy has never cared an iota about this country really or the people living in it. His day is coming up--it's unfortunate that it's still two months away.

37alco261
nov. 17, 2020, 8:41am

>36 lriley: - signature difference based on years elapsed...Ha! Years nothing - just look at a difference in your signatures at different times under different conditions in the course of a week.

Anyone who has ever put together a will and testament can tell you one of the things the good lawyer does is get you to sign multiple things in their presence so they have multiple examples of your signature - no two are the same.

If you are still one of those people who writes checks ( I am) just look at the signature differences over the course of check writing for a single month - there's no way they look the same and, depending on how rushed you might have been to get a nearly late payment out, the signature differences can be very large.

382wonderY
nov. 17, 2020, 9:54am

>36 lriley: And, when I registered to vote, it was pen on paper. When I went to vote, they wanted me to sign with my finger on a screen. Only after protest did they offer me a stylus.

39lriley
nov. 17, 2020, 11:41am

#38---yes the mess I'll make on a screen with my finger. It's like being back in first grade with watercolors.

40Limelite
nov. 17, 2020, 4:16pm

No Court Has Found a Single Case of Election Fraud

Trump backers have dropped cases in four courts in the last 48 days, knowing they have no evidence; or knowing their "whistle-blower" claimants have lied; or knowing that their witnesses will lie on the stand.

While no American holds that a loser does NOT have the right to challenge voter results when and if they have evidence to support that contention, it should not be tolerated by ANY American to support actively or with their critical silence all legal challenges WITHOUT ANY evidence to support conspiracy theories that are lies.

41margd
nov. 17, 2020, 5:00pm

No one claimed the $1 million that the Lt Governor of Texas offered for evidence.

42lriley
Editat: nov. 17, 2020, 5:49pm

#41--maybe that jerk Patrick needs to up the ante to $10 million.

43Limelite
nov. 17, 2020, 6:50pm

Even the Republicans in TX want rid of Trump so badly they can't be bothered to cook up a scam to claim the reward.

I could be bought for $10M!!!!

44lriley
nov. 17, 2020, 8:47pm

#43--I agree with you. A million is chump change for that kind of work.

45margd
des. 3, 2020, 6:39am

Florida attorney under investigation for registering to vote in Georgia, encouraging others to do the same
Nicole Carr | December 2, 2020 - 9:14 PM

PAULDING COUNTY, Ga. — A Florida attorney is at the center of a new state investigation after elections officials say he recently attempted to register to vote in Georgia and instructed other Florida Republicans on how to do it .

...Price told the group he’s moving to his brother’s address in Hiram, Georgia in order to register to vote in the January runoff. He repeats and spells and his brother’s name and address, as members of the group jot it down. They can be heard mumbling the address in the background while some write.

“We can truly register at that address?” one woman asks.

“Sure,” Price answers, adding they have to plan to show a move, suggesting they have mail sent there.

“And can it be anywhere in the state of Georgia you can register?” another woman asks. “So if you’ve got cousins, dogs, cats that live somewhere else, it doesn’t need to be one particular county?”

...Channel 2 confirmed Price registered to vote the day after he made the speech, using his brother’s Hiram address and swearing to an affidavit that he was a Georgia resident and eligible to vote.

...Georgia’s Deputy Secretary of State Jordan Fuchs confirmed the office would be exploring the felony charges tied to fraudulent voter registration in Georgia.

For weeks Georgia officials have warned that registering to vote with no attempt to stay in Georgia can be punishable by a felony charge that can carry up to a ten-year sentence , and $100,000 fine...

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registe...

462wonderY
des. 3, 2020, 7:34am

>45 margd: I’ll be curious to watch for follow-up news on this. The Florida attorney’s full name is Bill Price.

47Limelite
des. 3, 2020, 12:52pm

Is that the stench of corrupt Republican dirty tricks cranking up that I smell? Or is it the refreshing odor of disbarment in the air?

482wonderY
des. 3, 2020, 3:51pm

There is another Florida attorney named Bill Price. He is in West Palm Beach. He is being harassed mistakenly. But just take a look at the messages:

https://www.wptv.com/news/region-c-palm-beach-county/west-palm-beach/west-palm-b...

And note how mild they are compared to what is spewing from the other side.

49bohemima
des. 7, 2020, 10:43am

This is breaking news:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-georgia/biden-to-carry-georgia-a...

Synopsis: The legal ballots cast in Georgia have now been counted three times.

Each count shows Biden won the state.

50Molly3028
Editat: des. 7, 2020, 2:40pm

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/mark-levin-calls-for-supreme-court-to-intervene-in-e...
Mark Levin Calls for Supreme Court to Intervene in Election: Politicians ‘Violated the Constitution Repeatedly’

The demographic wave is coming in the next decade.
In the meantime, the GOP's old f*rts will be actively
working to disenfranchise voters everywhere and in
anyway they can.

51Limelite
des. 7, 2020, 3:12pm

Sanctions for Trump Lawyers' 'Baseless Lawsuits'?

All 50 states and the District of Columbia have legal ethics rules for lawyers that are derived from standards published by the American Bar Association.

One ABA rule says that lawyers should only assert a claim in court if “there is a basis in law and fact for doing so that is not frivolous.”

Separately, there are rules prohibiting lawyers from making false statements to third parties and engaging in deceitful conduct.

Judges can punish lawyers who violate ethics rules in a particular case by ordering them to pay the winning party’s legal fees.

Judges can also impose milder sanctions such as striking a misleading document from the court record.

These case-specific punishments are sometimes known as “Rule 11 sanctions” in federal court.
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Trump’s lawyers are abusing the courts. They should be sanctioned

According to Justice Scalia, Trump's Lawyers Should Face Sanctions for 'Litigation Abuse'

Sanction Trump’s Election Lawyers—Now!

52margd
des. 13, 2020, 5:31am

Nine Election Fraud Claims, None Credible
Saranac Hale Spencer | December 11, 2020

A list of bogus election fraud claims, cobbled together from dubious websites and failed lawsuits aimed at overturning President-elect Joe Biden’s victory in the 2020 election, has spread widely online....appeared in...a publication called the Spectator (US)...promoted by, among others, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio and former House Speaker Newt Gingrich...

States Routinely Stop Counting
No Evidence of Ballot-Box Stuffing
‘Late Arriving Ballots’ Can Be Counted
Signature Matching Requirements Vary by State
Number of Rejected Ballots Still Unclear
No ‘Missing Votes’ in Delaware County, Pennsylvania
‘Non-Resident Voters’ Claim Raised in Two Failed Lawsuits
No Evidence of ‘Record Numbers of Dead People Voting’
No ‘Statistical Anomalies’ in Georgia

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/12/nine-election-fraud-claims-none-credible/

53Limelite
des. 13, 2020, 3:00pm

It's like Paxton. None of the Republicans who object to Biden's win really believe the election was stolen. They're just spoiled brats who feel sorry for themselves because they didn't get their way.

As the inimitable Karl Rove said, "America likes comebacks but they (sic) don't like sore losers."

All this whining about "stolen election" is the Republican grievance demographic howling about being in the minority. Must be because they're just not making old white men like they used to.

54MsMixte
des. 13, 2020, 10:13pm

>52 margd: One thing that can't be emphasized enough is that in some states, yes, DEAD PEOPLE CAN VOTE.

Some people vote by mail and die before Election Day. Voter lists may only be updated once a month and thus, those people have their vote counted.

In other states, it's actually the law that allows people who have received a ballot and return the ballot, then die--that vote will be counted.

Here's a link for those who wish to further their knowledge: https://www.ncsl.org/blog/2020/10/20/what-if-an-absentee-voter-dies-before-elect...

55lriley
des. 13, 2020, 11:47pm

#54--those voters tending to be older might also tend to vote more conservatively. This idea that only one side benefits from such outcomes is just flat out wrong.

56proximity1
Editat: des. 14, 2020, 1:52pm

>54 MsMixte:

Not, of course, that anyone claimed otherwise.

Of course voters can cast a fully legal ballot and then die. Hell, they can--as some surely have done--do so live and in person at their polling-place.

Does, ought, their ballot count? Well of course it counts! They were alive when they cast it, they were legitimately entitled to cast a ballot. They did. Then, minutes, hours, days or weeks later they died. They came, they voted, they died. All such votes do and ought to count.

What doesn't and oughtn't "count" is a ballot cast fraudulently in the name of a person already dead at the time the ballot was marked, cast, mailed-in or otherwise delivered to the proper authorities.

Those are the kind of ballots to which we're objecting! HINT: they are these ballots which are per se fraudulent and illegal and there is no rationale by which they could "become" valid, legitimate. We don't mean the odd erroneous or handful of wilfully falsely-cast ballots either. If it were just a matter of a few dozen, a few hundred, questionable ballots, we shouldn't be making all this fuss. We're concerned here with fraud on a scale which did alter, illegally, the outcome of whole districts, whole states and the United States Electoral College vote outcome as a whole.

Get a fucking clue, would you!?!?

Enough of such dumb-fuckery offered up for distracting bullshit, as though it had some valid point to it!

57kiparsky
des. 14, 2020, 2:44pm

>56 proximity1: dumb-fuckery offered up for distracting bullshit, as though it had some valid point to it!

An admirable summary of the whole attempt to un-lose the election. Give it up, bucko, you've lost fair and square, and nothing you can say or do will change the fact that millions of US citizens preferred Biden to Trump on election day, and that they did so in enough states to give Biden the win.

Your constant railing against reality is getting you nowhere. Go enjoy your life. If you can't do that in a country run by Joe Biden, go someplace more in line with your fancy. I hear Russia's nice this time of year. You'll probably get to hang out with DD once he decides to give up and flee. Maybe if you go now, you can show him around. You and him could be buddies - won't that be fun?

58Limelite
Editat: des. 14, 2020, 4:11pm

MI State Police Defy Republican Fake "Electors"

Michigan State Police on Monday refused to allow a group of self-proclaimed Republican electors to enter the state’s Capitol.
Video of the confrontation was captured by photojournalist Brendan Gutenschwager.

. . .the Capitol is closed unless you have an office here to conduct business today or you are taking part in the Electoral College process,” an officer explains to the GOP activists.

“We’re electors!” someone in the group exclaims.

“The electors are already here,” the officer replies. “They’ve been checked in.”
Ooops! Too late to defraud the legal MI election process. But lying is supposed to always work. . .

Not this time
“The Electors are already here, they’ve been checked in.” Michigan State Police are blocking access to the Capitol, preventing the GOP Electors from getting inside #Michigan #ElectoralCollege #ElectoralCollegeVote pic.twitter.com/GzTK5gGCJ1

— Brendan Gutenschwager (@BGOnTheScene) December 14, 2020
See the VIDEO
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.Mock Republican Electors Hold Fake Meetings in Kabuki for Trump
IMPORTANT: Reiterating that despite some claims from Trump camp, there are not "dueling" slates of electors. The mock ceremonies by Republican electors in a AZ, GA, NV, PA, WI and MI have no legal force or relevance.

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 14, 2020
Talk about deluded behavior. Normal people don't behave like this. These are cultist zombie behaviors of folks trying to create a Right Wing Fantasyland because reality bites. Sorry business. Disney already beat you to that, too.

59margd
des. 15, 2020, 10:51am

Trump Supporter Arrested For Requesting Absentee Ballot For Dead Mother
Daniel Marans | 10/22/2020 04:47 pm ET Updated Oct 22, 2020

...Trump’s crusade against the phantom voter fraud phenomenon has on at least one occasion led him to encourage his supporters to test the system’s safeguards by engaging in the practice themselves. At a rally in North Carolina in September, he told supporters to mail in their ballots and then vote in person, “and if the system is as good as they say it is then obviously they won’t be able to vote” in person.

The Voter Project, a group working to expose Republican voter suppression efforts and dispel myths about voter fraud, blamed Trump for effectively encouraging voter fraud among his own supporters.

“Donald Trump has tried to spread chaos and disinformation about voter fraud for years and he’s never come up with any evidence,” Voter Project spokesperson Mike Mikus said in a statement. “A byproduct of his misinformation is that nearly every instance of voter fraud in recent years has been Trump’s own supporters because they believe his incessant lying.”

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/-trump-supporter-arrested-voter-fraud-pennsylvani...

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I was a poll worker in Florida for early voting and Election Day. We had several trumpsters trying to vote twice and were shocked when we knew we had already voted. They could have gotten arrested. Not a single dem tried this crap.

- SarahTanner @june_cleavage8:16 AM · Dec 15, 2020

60MsMixte
gen. 5, 7:48pm

The city of Detroit has just asked a federal judge to refer Sidney Powell, Lin Wood and the rest of Team Kraken for disbarment proceedings.

https://twitter.com/alanfeuer/status/1346604367705763840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ct...

61Limelite
Editat: gen. 29, 5:02pm

Republican Candidate Arrested on Voter Fraud Charges

Republican Frederick Gattuso, 43, who ran against Democratic Mayor Daniel Reiman of Cataret, NJ, in 2018, voted twice by mail using the registration of two people with similar names, officials said. He was arrested and charged with third-degree fraudulent voting.

This lovely character had accused the incumbent of being a sexual predator, thief and drunk driver. Reiman filed defamation lawsuits against Gattuso and three others as a result.
"We exposed his criminal history, his racist and bigoted comments when he ran against me in 2018 so it’s really no surprise that his criminal conduct would continue," Reiman said in response to the voter fraud charge against his nemesis.

"The local Republican leaders should condemn voter fraud and these illegal tactics, but as they endorsed him to run for mayor I can’t help but think that this latest stunt was the idea of some of the the same individuals and maybe more wide spread."
And I bet Mayor Reiman is right.

62Limelite
feb. 2, 7:58pm

Trump "Stop the Steal" Attorney, Lin Wood, Under Investigation for VOTER FRAUD

The state of Georgia is looking into suspicious acts, comments, and probably deeds that Lin "Batshit Crazy" Wood voted twice. . . .the Georgia Secretary of State’s Office has launched an investigation into whether Wood was eligible to vote in Georgia, whether he broke the law by casting his ballot and whether he was actually a Georgia resident.

I'm beginning to believe DJT that there was "widespread election fraud" by Republicans! Look at the stories in this thread for evidence.
Sources at the secretary of state’s office say an email that Wood sent to (the reporter) caused them to launch an official investigation.

In the email, Wood confirmed he moved to South Carolina, writing “I have been domiciled in South Carolina for several months after purchasing property in the state in April.”

Now state election investigators are looking into whether that means Wood legally should not have been able to vote in the November election.

They cite a section of Georgia code that reads, “If a person removes to another state with the intention of making it such person’s residence, such person shall be considered to have lost such person’s residence in this state.”
Lie, Cheat, and Steal is probably the name of his law firm. Of course, Wood is full of self-righteous indignation.
Wood sent a statement to (the reporter) late Tuesday evening, saying:

“I have been a resident of the State of Georgia since 1955. I changed my residency to South Carolina yesterday.

“This is pure harassment by the Georgia Secretary of State because I have revealed credible evidence of election fraud on the part of Brad Raffensperger.”

Wood did say that he did not vote in the January runoff because he said it was a not a legitimate election.
Of course.

63MsMixte
feb. 3, 12:26am

>62 Limelite: Wood is a lawyer, and knows the legal definition of 'domicile':

"Domicile is a combination of two factors namely, residence and intent to remain. As the term domicile includes residence, the scope and significance of the term domicile is larger than the term residence. An individual may have several residences whereas; s/he will have only one domicile. Domicile is more used in reference to personal rights, duties and obligations."

64Limelite
feb. 4, 9:31pm

>63 MsMixte:

The hair Wood is trying to split is his common legal definition of "domicile" being distinct (and overriding) GA specific requirement for residence within state lines and leaving that residence to reside outside state lines, yet voting in a state (GA) where you no longer reside (by GA statutory language) and thus are voting illegally.

Pure voter fraud where GA and FL, and I assume several other states are concerned. Domicile is a term both GA and FL, and probably other states allow, in special circumstances, to military and college students to retain voting rights in their state and precinct of choice while forced by circumstances to no longer reside there through no fault of their own.

I don't think Wood has a "wooden" leg to stand on. And I think he knows it and certainly knew it on Election Day. Being a lawyer, as you point out.

Whatever, GA intends to investigate and I'm willing to see if the Rule of Law applies to all, or if selective law says IOKIYAR.

65Limelite
feb. 9, 4:59pm

GA Launches Investigation into Trump Election Intreferance

Reasonable expectation is that the investigation will lead to criminal charges. Should US Senators refuse to do their duty and convict Trump of the House's Impeachment article, Georgia may promise to grind Trump slowly and finely within its own state election law. That will likely lead to him being a defendant with more than the threat of being unable to hold public office ever again. He could do time in one of Georgia's less Southern-ly hospitable iron bar "hotels."
Georgia’s Secretary of State’s office opened a probe on Monday into former U.S. President Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results, a step that could lead to a criminal investigation (sic-should read indictments) by state and local authorities.
(SNIP)
. . .the probe, which was first reported by Reuters, was prompted by a complaint filed on Monday by George Washington University law professor John Banzhaf.

Banzhaf told Reuters he spoke with an investigator in Raffensperger’s office on Monday, hours after he filed the complaint requesting a probe into Trump’s potential election interference. It was his fourth such complaint to Georgia officials since the Jan. 2 call. . .
(SNIP)
Legal experts say Trump’s phone calls may have violated at least three state criminal election laws: conspiracy to commit election fraud, criminal solicitation to commit election fraud, and intentional interference with performance of election duties. The felony and misdemeanor violations are punishable by fines or imprisonment. Reuters
Don't be fooled, these calls to Brad Raffenspergerr weren't just "any" call. Republicans will argue that the president is allowed to make "calls" to anyone he chooses. The investigation is about the content of the calls. They were calls made to allow Trump the occasion to intimidate the Sec'y of State into overturning a legitimate, certified election result by finding and producing votes for Trump that did not exist. Clear solicitation of election fraud in a conspiracy to overturn the will of the people and disenfranchise the votes of the winning major attempted by Trump.