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You're being played

Editat: des. 14, 2020, 1:14pm

Play the Game or Be Played

...We remember, in other words, November and December 2016, when Hillary Clinton and her army of backers from the highest heights of the media, cultural, academic, and political landscape did everything that Trump is being accused of now (and worse) to challenge the results of the 2016 election.

Finally failing at these “norm-defying” efforts to usurp from Trump his duly-elected right to claim the White House and thereby subvert the franchise of his more than 60 million voters in 2016, we also regrettably remember the four years of #TheResistance. We remember the mainstream denial of Trump’s legitimacy from the start. We remember the “17 intelligence agencies” claiming foreign election interference, eventually revised down to just three agencies (but who’s counting?) and not before planting the seed that would lead to more than two-thirds of Democrats believing Russia tampered with vote tallies to get Trump elected,

We remember the outgoing administration spying—wait, I mean, no, not “spying” . . . that’s another false conspiracy theory . . . rather a joint effort by Obama’s FBI, NSA, and CIA to closely surveil and monitor the activities of several individuals associated with Trump’s team in an interagency probe that enjoyed broad autonomy and legal latitude despite dozens of proven omissions by the FBI to the FISA court, which is definitely not spying, got it?—which then laid the groundwork for a subsequent years-long Russiagate scandal to further invalidate his presidency and hamstring his agenda. We remember the Cold War fan-fic Steele dossier peddled by organs of “official knowledge” as serious intelligence. We remember the New York Times giving over their pages to drug-addled mental defectives to perform the rhetorical equivalent of finger painting on the asylum walls. We remember a symposium of Yale psychiatrists breaking all manner of medical ethics rules to declare that Trump suffered from a “dangerous mental illness” and should be removed from office.

We also remember the half-baked impeachment. We remember the Hawaiian judges. We remember the collusion between Big Tech and the media to silence and intimidate Trump supporters. We remember all of the many lies, half-truths, and demonstrations of hard and soft power alike to deny Trump the full permissions of his presidency, far too many to ever neatly summarize in less than a book-length project, and the many breaches, big and small, of the consent of the governed to do so.

Put aside for a moment the perfectly reasonable inference any neutral observer might make about the motive to commit voter fraud in light of the above—Trump, as our intellectual betters have told us for years, is a fascist after all, the greatest threat to our nation perhaps ever. If one is justified in suffocating baby Hitler in his crib, surely filling out a few empty ballots to ensure that “literal Hitler” not be reelected is an easy moral calculation.

...The upshot of these articles, and the general thrust of elite conservative media, is that Trump supporters specifically, and the Right broadly, should accept the “reality of Trump’s electoral defeat” and go about the business of licking their wounds and devoting their energies to the next campaign (sans Trump, of course). The only explanation for continuing the fight, they contend, is collective delusion, the mind trap of their fevered echo chambers.

We are fighting an asymmetric war. Our opponents have the means and the will to ratchet up the stakes and operate by a different set of rules than we do. Trump is and always has been a threat to the establishment’s monopoly on rulemaking. For this, they want to banish him from the game, and same for his supporters. “Truth and reconciliation.” “De-Trumpification.” We hear those things, too. And what obligation to abide by the “rules” exists for those of us whose electoral interests are deemed illegitimate by those same rules?

Why do we insist the game is rigged? Because it is. And you are a fool, at best, not to see it.

The Game

des. 14, 2020, 11:33am

#1--No. You are.

des. 14, 2020, 1:13pm

What was I thinking? I forgot to add the musical accompaniment.

des. 14, 2020, 1:21pm

des. 14, 2020, 2:01pm

'Play up! play up! and play the game!'

Vitai Lampada by Sir Henry Newbolt (1862-1938)

des. 14, 2020, 2:36pm

>5 John5918: As Richard Thompson reminds us, you can't win

des. 14, 2020, 2:48pm

>4 aspirit: Flagged for hijacking the thread.

des. 14, 2020, 2:49pm

"you are a fool, at best, not to see it."

des. 14, 2020, 2:52pm

>7 Earthling1:. That’s not a flaggable offense. Your flagging the post might be though.

des. 14, 2020, 2:53pm

I'm flagging yours too.

des. 14, 2020, 2:54pm

Flag Wars!

des. 14, 2020, 4:37pm

I flag every post.

des. 14, 2020, 5:08pm

Just So You Know

You realize that Newsmax is the shopping channel where right wingnuts go to buy Trump election propaganda, don't you? I mean, there's no news on the channel. You won't see any stories about the ravaging Covid-19 cases; no on the ground reporting from National Guard field hospitals, no shots of packed mobile morgues, not a single feature about the long term effects of the virus. Only fake election impropriety lies and stolen election conspiracies are on sale.

You realize that the talking bobbleheads on Newsmess are actually not journalists with any credibility among their peers, or any recognized journalism credentials. One was a co-host on “Good Day New York” with a reputation of being an accused sexual assaulter, another used to be a mouthpiece on NRATV, and a third is the National Lying Sack o' Shite, Sean Spicer. They don't tell their viewers facts because that's not why they tune in. They offer up conspiracies and the Trump-train(ed) lap it up like the offering was cheap gemstones or knock-off handbags. Such a deal!

You realize that the majority owner and CEO of Newsmess is Christopher Ruddy, who denies that his media outlet is "Trump TV." Except the only product for sale on his media is Trump and all the conspiracies that surround him like a cloud of dirt. He's quite open about being a home shopping network that only sells what the gullible want to buy. “In this day and age, people want something that tends to affirm their views and opinions,” he told The New York Times’ Ben Smith. Like Trump views his train(ed) followers, Ruddy thinks his audience is stupid. He's just as happy as trump to monetize their stupidity. He doesn't even have to be a conman, just a salesman. Don't be fooled by his public denials, Ruddy wants to be Trump TV and take over that spot from Fox. Only he's not going to the trouble Faux TV goes to in trying to sustain the illusion of being a news station. He doesn't have to. Faux ginned up the appetite for Trump TV and Newsmess supplies nothing but Trump TV to the propaganda hungry believers already prepared to buy the tripe it's selling.

So, keep watching, listening, reading, believing, and citing Newsmess. Just so you know, we ALL KNOW it's just another stupefying shopping network. And that you're being played.

des. 14, 2020, 7:48pm

You are being played? Who? Orange Hitler has played his fool followers for over 200 million dollars, post-election. That's who are being played - for suckers.

Orange Hitler is one of the most successful players (grifters) in world history.

Yet, strangely, for a Three-Card Monty guy, he couldn't run a casino for shit, though. Also he sucked at running a "university". And I think both his meat and wine scams were losers too.

des. 14, 2020, 9:12pm

Played like an old fiddle.

des. 14, 2020, 10:50pm

>12 Earthling1: I flag every post.

Wouldn't flagging every post be a violation of the TOS?

des. 15, 2020, 3:46pm

>16 John5918: Yep, pretty sure.

des. 15, 2020, 4:11pm

>16 John5918:, >17 davidgn: Reasonable people can disagree about what constitutes abuse, but flagging is not a weapon. Clear misuse of the flagging feature—either to flag or counter-flag—is itself a manipulation of the system and a violation of the Terms.

(from the TOS)

Flagging "every post" sounds like a "clear misuse" to me.

des. 15, 2020, 9:35pm

> 15

You can play your own background music to the stated facts with a fiddle or a skin flute or whatever, but facts is facts. Everything in my post was correct. If you think you can refute anything I posted then go right ahead.

You can't. You have nothing.

You bore people. That is not an ad hom. That is another fact. lol.

des. 15, 2020, 10:20pm

>15 Earthling1:

Or in the immortal words of the old Irish ballad "Phil the Fluter's Ball":

Have you heard of Phil the fluter
From the town of Ballymuck
The times was going hard for him
In fact the man was broke
So he sent an invitation
To his neighbours one and all
As how he'd like their company
That evening at a ball

And when writing out
He was careful to suggest to them
That if they found a hat of his
Convenient to the door
The more they put in
Whenever he requested them
The better would the music be
For battering the floor

With a toot on the flute
And a twiddle on the fiddle-oh...

des. 17, 2020, 8:56pm

A Juicy Tidbit for One of LT's Biggest Fans of a Certain Media 'Source' for News

Should probably do a double post and put this in the "How the (Faux) Media Wants You To Think" thread.
Here's Michael Flynn on Newsmax saying that Trump could order "military capabilities" to swing states and "rerun an election in each of those states."

"People out there talk about martial law like it's something that we've never done. Martial law has been instituted 64 times."

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) December 18, 2020
Sure he could. And that would be treason, Guilty-as-Charged-Flynn, a subject you're on intimate terms with as a veteran practitioner. Suggesting it as a course of action would be sedition, if we had an actual Justice Department. I don't believe you've been pardoned for that?

des. 17, 2020, 9:03pm

Anybody Here Donate to the "Save America" PAC?

Just asking if you're among the post-election Trump friends playees.
Some big donors contributed to Mr. Trump after Election Day, including $150,000 from Kelcy Warren, the energy executive, and $260,000 from his wife, Amy, on Nov. 5, as well as $250,000 from Kenny and Lisa Troutt of Texas on Nov. 9.

des. 17, 2020, 9:26pm

>22 Limelite: Lol. Coming from an actual billionaire, $150K is kind of an insult, isn't it? "Here, kid, go buy yourself something nice... like a house in Cleveland..."

It's sure as hell not going to make a difference to The Dickless' debt load in any case.

Editat: des. 19, 2020, 1:03am

"Some of us even remember the last presidential election. Some of us remember “experts” (not conspiracy theorists, importantly) insisting that voter fraud had tipped the balance for Trump in 2016 and that Hillary Clinton must take her fight to the Supreme Court.

We also recall op-eds in places like the Washington Post promoting the notion that “The Election Really Was Rigged.” We remember the faithless electors, calling themselves the “Hamilton Electors,” represented pro bono by luminaries of Harvard Law School and encouraged by all corners of the liberal press and cringe celebrity advocates, casting their electoral votes, at a scale unprecedented in a century, for a third-party compromise candidate contravening the popular will of their respective states."