Discussion - Episode 4.13 "Sometimes a Great Notion"
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All caught up on the first half of the season and on all the webisodes, so my excitement for the show has returned.
I think some of the so-called "spoilers" are a crock and a joke on gullible fans by RDM.
>11 Irisheyz77: ah, I don't believe that bit about Ellen. I think they're tweaking us. Of course, I could be wrong. Gail, yes, her statement is interesting and made me think of Starbuck.
Seems they can kill off a character every episode or two since this is the final season. The preview featuring Dee was a dead giveaway.
come on, fanny, get with the program! :-) (pun intended)
As for Kara...they've always highlight that there was something different about here. I've always thought that it might mean that she's a hybrid. But that doesn't explain how her jumper crashed on earth and how she somehow returned to the fleet.
Here's a great (long) article featuring an interview with Ron Moore about the latest episode:
Chicago Tribune article
I read that article a few days ago. Having found the Ellen idea pretty pedestrian, it was a bit annoying to see how self-congratulatory RDM was about the choice.
I have to say, the show really has gone downhill since the rescue from New Caprica. I hope they end it well, but I'm assuming they won't.
I really liked the episode. There have been a few episodes I didn't care for but overall I've loved the entire series.
I still don't get how those five cylons managed to stay alive during the original attack.
I'm still waiting for them to explain what happened with Starbuck's ovary...
I'm sort of dreading the whole zarek-leads-the-rebellion sort of thing coming up. Sigh.
Ellen is the fifth. Just before the ep aired I asked the hubby if he had any final cylon predictions and he said, "it's not about the final cylon, it's about who dies, and when, and how."
Smart man, my husband.
They have lots of 'splainin' to do.
I also wonder about the Earth Cylons...in the flashbacks it looks like there were as diversified as regular humans. Which would throw a wrench in the whole there are only 12 models thing. There is also something that sets the final five apart from the other cylons...why they were never talked about and not part of their world.
Maybe all 12 known models survived the attack. They were all reborn/resurrected somehow and then began the journey to the 12 colonies. Perhaps they put themselves in stasis or something and were later discovered by the Toasters that had been ejected from the colonies during the first cylon....and...and then thats were my thinking starts to fall apart a bit
My fiance read somewhere that a popular theory is that Starbuck is really Ellen...or Ellen's daughter...somehow they are kinda the same. I suppose we'll find out.
>22 Irisheyz77: That was my 2nd thought, Gail. My 1st thought is that it's one of those loose ends they have forgotten about and we'll never know.
And where the hell is the moon? Look on the moon! (In the Asimov book, the secret was on the moon).
Things I wonder about:
(1) When did Starbuck crash? 2000 years in the past?
(2) What the frak IS she now?
(3) What happened to Earth?
(4) How did the Final Five escape Earth/survive/whatever?
(5) How does all of this tie in with the whole idea that the Cylons were created by 12 colonies man?
(6) Why the hell did they waste the Fifth Cylon on Ellen? This one really annoys me. Like others have said, it takes the sting and the significance out of her death. There was an irony in the fact that Tigh - who later finds out he's a cylon - killed his wife for collaborating with them. That irony is kind of lost if she's a cylon too.
I dislike the feeling that the producers are re-writing the rules on us. Either that or the rules the characters all thought existed don't actually exist. But I am intrigued. Mostly by the Cylons or half-Cylon characters at this point. The humans are starting to bore me.