Discussion - Episode 4.18 "Deadlock"

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Discussion - Episode 4.18 "Deadlock"

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1littlegeek
feb. 20, 2009, 12:26pm

If I don't get some Baltar this week, I'm throwing something at the TV.

I really, really don't care about Ellen/Saul/Six triangle drama. It's worse than the Quadrangle of Doom.

2jenreidreads
feb. 21, 2009, 8:21am

This episode wasn't as good as they have been, to me. It's like they lost momentum after the mutiny business. And it seemed choppy the way it was edited. Major bummer...there are only 4 episodes left!

3avaland
feb. 21, 2009, 9:07am

Bit of a soap opera this episode with the whole Ellen-Saul-Caprica thing. Yawn.

Nice tie in with season 1 with the image of Ellen's legs when the raptor door open.

My husband's favorite part was the Saul/Bill hug, when I broke out into the song "It's guy love" (from Scrubs). Although, that bit was meant to be symbolic of the whole blended thing.

Tory is expendable, imo.

More later, heading out for brunch and errands.

4littlegeek
feb. 21, 2009, 11:12am

WTF?

The XO's girlfriend has to go to Dogtown to score a snack? Really?

Tyrol votes to blow off the humans? Really?

The best you could do with the mysterious Final Five is As the Toaster Turns? Really?

Laura, who knows that Cap6 & Baltar are responsible for the holocaust, chats up Cap6 in the hallway (although, that was about Hera & the Opera House) and gives Baltar guns? Really????

Adama, who just got done putting down a mutiny, gives Baltar guns???? Really?

The show is officially completely off the rails.

5karenmarie
feb. 21, 2009, 11:24am

We're so confused! And, as littlegeek says, it's off the rails.

There hasn't been any good writing in a while and As the Toaster Turns (good one, lg) is boooring. I sort of thought Ellen as a Cylon might be better than Ellen as a human, but I was wrong. Same old bitch.

And what's with Sam now?

I'm getting concerned - there are only four episodes left. How are they going to get it back on the rails in such a short time?

6JPB
feb. 21, 2009, 2:27pm

no, no, no.

It's "As the Toaster BURNS" :D

I have to say, having the big secrets come down to this is just sad. I don't think the BSG crew had any idea how to end this show, and this is what they came up with.

:(

7avaland
feb. 21, 2009, 3:33pm

>4 littlegeek: littlegeek, you bring up several of the WTF moments that I mentioned to my husband after the episode. I thought the idea of Tyrol voting to dump the fleet and run was out of character. I mean, without his cylon memories, the 'five' is just an idea in his head, a cool story.

btw, knowing now that Tyrol & Tory were married, does it make her killing Callie subconsciously more personal?

yeah, I was expecting more from the Ellen thing. After all, an Ellen with memories is supposedly a really geeky, smart Ellen. I thought it could have been very cool, everyone having to get used to a smart Ellen as opposed to the boozy, slutty Ellen. For a moment I thought it was going to go that way. Oh well.

There doesn't seem to be an overarching narrative any more. I've been watching to see how they might be setting up things for a finish, but there just seems to be these tangential bits. Maybe the last episode, those who understand that to survival they must work together, they'll all hold hands and sing kumbiyah or something . . .

8littlegeek
feb. 21, 2009, 4:34pm

I think the end will be a deus ex machina. The One True Cylon God will appear and will say he's just making it all up as he goes along because that's how he likes to do it. If the characters (or the viewers, wink wink) don't like that, well, too bad because I'm God and what I say goes.

All the character react to how they've been corrupted and ruined by the caprice of God, and then just start killing each other because, well, it's always nice to have some pew pew.

In the fray, Baltar somehow manages to kill God. The End.