Discussion - Episode 4.19 "Someone to Watch Over Me" (SPOILERS)

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Discussion - Episode 4.19 "Someone to Watch Over Me" (SPOILERS)

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1littlegeek
Editat: feb. 27, 2009, 8:40pm

Sigh....Remember when you looked forward to watching BSG?

Well, the good news is this ep seems to be centered around Tyrol and Starbuck. The bad news is I've seen a promo and it was already in the neverland of implausible plot points and OOC dumbness.

Hoping to be proved wrong.

2jenreidreads
feb. 28, 2009, 2:22am

I was feeling let down by this episode until about halfway through—when Bad Boomer was on the loose—and then it had me on the edge of my seat! I had to rewind and watch the part where Starbuck played All Along the Watchtower twice. I can't wait to find out more of her history.

littlegeek, you always seem so disappointed every episode! I'm still a huge fan.

3fyrefly98
feb. 28, 2009, 9:48am

Good gods, Helo's dumb. Pretty, but so very dumb. I guess in his defense, there wasn't exactly a lot of blood going to his brain at the time.

Hera should have been able to tell the difference, though.

I squealed like an idiot when Watchtower made its reappearance... that was well done, even if the rest of Kara's story was a little slow-moving. And once again, Michael Hogan's left eye out-acted everyone else in the scene. :)

4littlegeek
Editat: feb. 28, 2009, 11:05am

I did like that episode better than last week! Tyrol/Boomer stuff was good and IN CHARACTER! The Kara stuff dragged imo, and I hated the Dylan song thing last season so not all that excited to see it back.

Quibbbles: They're on their last tube of toothpaste, but they've still got plenty of hootch!
Like fyrefly, I was wondering why Hera would go off with Boomer. She never seemed to like her all that much on the basestar.
How did Athena get out of that locker? How hard would it have been to have say, Hot Dog, rescue her? Also, why didn't she kick the door or make a noise?
With all those 6s & 8s wandering around the ship, no one noticed Boomer wandering around loose?

There was a nice cliffhanger for next week. Great work by Aaron Douglas.

5avaland
feb. 28, 2009, 4:52pm

I'm thinking that Bob Dylan might be the one true God. Although my husband contends that the piece played is something that has been composed around Watchtower, not the song itself.

While I liked the bad Boomer being on the loose, one has to forgive an awful lot to really make it work. I agree, Helo thinking Boomer is Athena is a bit of a stretch. And they were going at it in a public lavatory (public as in for the crew). And Athena could have groaned or something.

Loved the toothpaste bit. Yeah, where does all the hootch come from? They must have algae distilleries on every ship working around the clock.

I'm still holding on my theory about Starbuck; however, I would find it hard to believe that the five and Cavil wouldn't be aware that Daniel had a child. What loose story ends do we have? Hmm. Gaius and gang with big guns. Cavil and gang and the diabolical plot. Still the Opera House scene to fulfill.
Play the song for Anders, maybe he'll come out of it.

If Boomer could jump to the fleet in 'rescuing' Ellen, one can assume that Cavil could also find the fleet as easily (since it was noted that Ellen's escape was part of Cavil's plan. So has Boomer duped Chief? Can we believe anything she says? Remember, Cavil has taught her to be a better machine)

6fyrefly98
feb. 28, 2009, 11:45pm

Booze is easy to make (everything organic will ferment given enough time); palatable booze only slightly less easy. Toothpaste is somewhat harder, especially if they don't have a lot of access to a variety of plants.

7kawika
març 1, 2009, 5:14am

The BSG geek in me LOVED the toothpaste being named Felgercarb. I loved that they found a way to work that into the series, FINALLY. :D

8littlegeek
març 1, 2009, 12:35pm

#7 Yeah, that was cool. Did you know that the song that "Slick" was playing in the beginning was from the old series, too? I didn't notice, but read it in blogs.

9jenreidreads
març 1, 2009, 6:13pm

Check out Bear McCreary's blog on the music of the episode. It's amazing how much work went into it! http://www.bearmccreary.com/blog/

10karenmarie
març 2, 2009, 12:36pm

I must say that this episode was much more interesting than the last several - at least things seem to be happening again!

11avaland
març 2, 2009, 7:59pm

>6 fyrefly98: if my grandmother's recipe box was any indication, I can certainly agree there!

12TKKenyon
març 3, 2009, 10:32pm

Howdy y'all,

I, also, have been disappointed with the recent episodes of BSG. I keep thinking, "Only 4 left! Get a move on!" (Now 3!) and yet, with *so much* left to resolve, the plotlines seem to be ponderously knotting.

I did like Bad Boomer, the better machine, loose on Galactica. Hera should have recognized her. At least she should have had some indication that she did, even if she went with her anyway. After all, the weird child practically humped Natalie's leg. There did need to be closure or at least another beat in the Boomer-Chief love story. Now, she has truly used and betrayed him. Chief can let go and get on with his life instead of mooning over who he *really* wanted to be with. In his previous life, he was married to Tory. Maybe they'll get back together.

It almost seems like Ron Moore is too interested in making Caprica and whatever other pilots he has going than finishing up this project. Lack of focus.

It's too bad. I still like BSG. I look forward to it every Friday.

But season 2 was frakkin' awesome. It deserved to be the best show on TV. I used to record it and watch it several times.

Now, it's just pretty good.

Maybe I just hate endings. I hated the last couple Harry Potter books, too. Maybe it's just the problem of creating fiction in general, that expanding the possibilities in the first half of the work is so much more interesting than tying the threads together to end it.

Always connect.

TK Kenyon

13littlegeek
març 4, 2009, 6:59pm

Maybe it's just the problem of creating fiction in general, that expanding the possibilities in the first half of the work is so much more interesting than tying the threads together to end it.

I disagree. If those ends are tied up well, it's can be very satisfying.

RDM left his options open for so long that he ruined any chance of salvaging it into a coherent vision.

14avaland
març 7, 2009, 12:13pm

>13 littlegeek: agreed. And how i missed the thoughtful social commentary too. Sigh.

15fannyprice
març 29, 2009, 10:51am

I really enjoyed the Boomer/Tyrol plot in this one. It was so first season, when she's just manipulating the hell out of him even though she might actually love him, because she's Boomer, she's the crazy 8 and that's just how she rolls. And like Tyrol, like a total sap, I fell for it too & actually thought she might not be a total psycho b*itch anymore. Boy was I wrong. I've been surprised at how brutal these last batch of episodes are - lots of violence and now this graphic infidelity. But here's the thing - all the Cylons were always able to spot Boomer in an instant.... Why did no one know it was her? Helo's an idiot, so ok. But Hera should be able to sense that this one is not mommy.

Starbuck's song was just cool. Nice rendition.

16avaland
abr. 2, 2009, 8:39pm

>15 fannyprice: I gave Hera the benefit of the doubt; she was scooped up and away pretty quickly.

However, there is no, no, no excuse for Helo.

17kawika
abr. 2, 2009, 9:16pm

Humans can't tell the difference between cylons and he was horny.