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1Moomin_Mama
Editat: abr. 11, 2010, 6:55pm

Can't believe this group is dormant!

I'm a fan of true crime as a subject, but as a genre I find it hit and miss. I prefer more literary true crime to Ann Rule and Harold Schechter style books, but I'll give anything a go. Would love to see more discussion on this group and hope a few members join in.

My mini reviews/comments on the true crime books I've read since joining LT give you some idea of my tastes:

http://www.librarything.com/catalog/Moomin_Mama&tag=True+Crime&collectio...

2kageeh
abr. 13, 2010, 10:38am

We may be the only two posting here but that's ok! What are some examples of literary true crime?

My library illustrates that I read just about any true crime but most of it is of the trashy paperback variety. I choose books by the ratio of ink to white space on the page; the lower the ratio, the less likely I am to purchase the book. I also won't read any true crime books about cases that are still "in process"; too much can change between the accusations and the trials. But long unsolved crimes are fine.

Ann Rule is my favorite true crime author because her books (her hardcover single-crime books) read like fiction with lots of suspense and background. Joe McGinniss is another author of the same ilk.

So name your favorites.

3Moomin_Mama
abr. 13, 2010, 4:30pm

Might be just us two but it would be nice if it re-invigorates the group! No reason why it shouldn't; I've come across plenty of true crime nuts* here on LT.

(I meant nuts about true crime, NOT that we're nuts).

By literary true crime, I meant those books where the style of writing is used as a means to get into the heads/motivations of the perpetrators, and the effects on the victims, by painting a picture rather than simply relating the facts. Two in particular stand out for me: Happy Like Murderers, about Fred and Rose West, where Gordon Burn has tried to depict the whole mood and attitude of the West household and the crimes committed there; and Beyond Belief: The Moors Murderers, where Emlyn Williams uses made-up dialogue between the murderers to suggest how they would have worked together, although in all other respects he stuck to the facts and interviews.

4kageeh
Editat: abr. 13, 2010, 5:14pm

One of the most beautiful books I've read about a murder is called Spoken in Darkness by Imbrie. I don't know if you can find it where you are but you can try amazon. It's not a recent book so it should be very inexpensive. It reads like a novel.

I have heard about Beyond Belief: The Moors Murderers but I can't remember if I've read it. Is the book about the Wests about the people who killed a young girl or woman and hid her body in the walls of their house?

By the way, I could very easily be nuts, you know. But that doesn't make me any less credible :).

5Moomin_Mama
abr. 13, 2010, 6:29pm

You're right, you COULD be nuts - the "I'm not nuts but I'm credible" argument sounds like that of a nutter ;)

You almost got it - the Wests were a couple who kidnapped girls, tortured and killed them, and buried them in their cellar, all while renting rooms out and bringing up a family under the same roof. They were very dysfunctional and went undetected for years - there were loads of missed opportunities and the book deals very well with how social changes in their lifetimes played a role in that. There are quite a few books about them, it was a very sensational case over here at the time (the early 90s).

Ann Rule isn't a favourite but there's a lot about her books I like. She's very consistent, very readable, well balanced, does her research, and involves the reader just as much in the victims and the people who work on the cases. She strikes a fine balance between the purely factual and more novel-like books.

6bertyboy
abr. 27, 2010, 8:10am

I am about to start The crimes of Josef Fritzel. Has anyone read this? Have a few Anne Rule books, is she worth reading?

7Moomin_Mama
abr. 27, 2010, 6:15pm

Haven't read The Crimes of Josef Fritzel but I'd be interested in what you think of it. I'm always a bit wary of books that come out too soon after a crime, they often seem a bit rushed and are often to cash in (was it one of them?).

Ann Rule's books are easy to read so it's worth trying at least one to see if you like her style. She certainly isn't a struggle to get in to.

8zachfortier
jul. 11, 2012, 6:50pm

I have a question for the members of this group. Would you be interested in a True crime novel about Cops gone bad? I am currently writing a book based on several cops I worked with that went "hero to zero". I spent 30 years as a cop and the frequency which this happened was amazing. Looking for feedback on the idea. Thanks in advance. Z

9Moomin_Mama
jul. 11, 2012, 9:32pm

Hi Zach, welcome to the group. It's not very active but I hope you get a few replies. Have you tried any of the other groups on LT?

Sounds a really interesting topic. Personally, I'm less bothered by subject material and more concerned with the way a book is written - I do like a book that tries to get under the skin of its subject, and I like a balanced approach rather than sensationalism.

Didn't realise 'cops turning bad' happened with any particular frequency so you've already got me intrigued, and I'd be keen to know more about the pressures, what aspects of the job were most stressful and what crimes, what support there was, how it impacted on the person's ability to do their job, and how the police 'police' themselves when things go wrong. Also, as a cop, whether you agree or disagree with any studies on the subject, and how your colleagues felt.

I know someone who turned very cynical and negative working in the emergency services for years and she'd often recommend books to me, although the emphasis on the ones she liked seemed to be about how awful the public were, like listening to people moaning and/or joking in the pub after a shift. Great for those who work in those jobs I'm sure, not at all interesting to me, but there's a market.

Good luck anyway and let us know how you get on :)

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