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El zen i l'art del manteniment de la motocicleta (1974)

de Robert M. Pirsig

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At its heart, the story is all too simple: a man and his son take a lengthy motorcycle trip through America. But this is not a simple trip at all, for around every corner, through mountain and desert, wind and rain, and searing heat and biting cold, their pilgrimage leads them to new vistas of self-discovery and renewal. This is an elemental work that has helped to shape and define the past twenty-five years of American culture. This special audio edition presents this adventure in a compelling way-for the millions who have already taken this journey and want to travel these roads again, and for the many more who will discover for the first time the wonders and challenges of a journey that will change the way they think and feel about their lives.… (més)
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Først fra ca s 250 begynner ting å ta form, dvs ordet «stuck» slik han forklarer det får mening. Paradoks, diskontinuerlighet og det å la ting sige eller stige langsomt fram og opp berøres av dette. Underveis i lesingen bladde jeg bak i boken der forfatteren skriver om prosessen - det gav litt mer løft til lesingen, bl a vedk. biografi. Som en pikaresk roman der reisen er større enn boken om reisen fordi livet er reisen.
  lestrond | Nov 27, 2023 |
I read this book soon after it came out. It changed my life. At least it did for fifteen years until living my life at least partially on the basis of wishful thinking hit hard reality. Living on the basis that what you wish to believe is true, without evidence, is potentially disastrous.
It purports to be non-fiction yet it reads like a novel. Pirsig did indeed make this journey with his son but his son was quite annoyed at the way the trip was described remembering it quite differently. Most important Phaedrus is described as developing an original philosophy (except that he claims to be recovering the ideas of Ancient Greek writers whose works are lost). Reading Heidegger at the moment I recognize a heavy influence on Pirsig's ideas notably on technology and Heidegger's "value" makes a good prototype for Pirsig's Quality. I am sure others who have read philosophy will be able to point to other influences but Phaedrus the outsider who speaks sense to the stuffy University establishment makes a good story but it is 180 degrees from the truth. There has been long developing a anti-reason strand in universities that those who encounter it and aren't themselves sucked in have been able to comfort themselves in the thought that this sort of stuff is too crazy to "escape the academy". Pirsig may not have had many or even any original ideas but he was excellent at popularizing the ideas of others and the success of his book is one of the first examples showing that anti-reason ideas are able to "escape the academy".
The key move in any anti-reason thesis is to throw doubt on our ability to know anything. Hence Phaedrus/Pirsig at the age of 17 "discovers" that in answering any scientific question hypotheses multiply faster than experiments can be conducted and concludes that all scientific theories will all be refuted in time. That he didn't get a Nobel prize for this remarkable discovery is explained by how universities mainly consist of careerists who don't care that Phaedrus has just debunked the whole scientific method. And we should take Phaedrus's word for this?
Like all anti-reason ideologies Pirsig must resort to a motte and bailey to ensure that things that affect us in our everyday life are exceptions to the claim that we don't have a good basis for believing anything. Hence reason for Pirsig has its place and reason must be resorted to in repairing a motorcycle but at the end of the day a motorcycle is not material reality for him but an idea.
Rejecting reason is only the first move in an anti-reason thesis. It creates a vacuum which is then filled with an idea which the person proposing does not need to justify using reason because they have already established that reason is bunk anyway.
Pirsig's substitute is Quality. That Quality is open to almost any interpretation that the reader likes is a key reason for the success for the book. It is very comforting to believe what feels good to you just so long as you keep this wishful thinking out of areas where being wrong could actually affect your life.
We live in a post truth era. Trump really won the 2020 election. Brexit would have been a great success but for a clique of remainers in the Tory party who betrayed Johnson. Trans women are women because that's the kind thing to believe. We are in trouble because wishful thinking as basis for political action is starting to affect real life. Pirsig does not carry more than a part of the blame but his book did contribute to laying the ground work for the era of un-reason we are now living through. ( )
  krashchom | Sep 2, 2023 |
It's one of those ubiquitous books that's kept turning up on library shelves, charity shop shelves and bookshop shelves throughout my life and yet i've always walked away from it - until now.

I've always had quite a deep interest in Zen and it always seemed to me that putting it with motorcycle maintenance just wasn't something i wanted to know about. But now i have a motorbike that needs some maintenance and this book turned up in Kindle daily deals for 99p i thought the time was right.

But oh, how wrong i've been all these years. It's not a book about Zen or how to fix a motorbike while practising Zen, it's a wholly different thing altogether.

In fact, it's a road trip book where our narrator takes his son on a road trip on an old motorbike across the USA. But it's a road trip with a difference.

At it's heart, it's a book about insanity, the condition of society and its relationship to technology, and a fair bit of Greek philosophy as well - and it's all broken up with the story of the road trip. And it's simply awesome.

With hindsight i'm happy that i've never read it until now as i'm much older and it really blended nicely with my own life experiences - having dropped out of a Philosophy degree course for much the same reasons and now many years later i can look back and see things more clearly.

And the ending in the 'Afterword' is what truly completes this book. It really is a masterpiece of writing. ( )
2 vota 5t4n5 | Aug 9, 2023 |
This was a mostly pointless mass of navel-gazing. If you've taken an elementary philosophy course or you remember having your presence hijacked by an inescapable philosophy major at a party during undergrad and feeling that you were not quite drunk enough to stomach their inane conversation, you can probably go ahead and skip this book.

TL;DR: Too much "Inquiry," not enough zen or motorcycles. ( )
  beckyrenner | Aug 3, 2023 |
A classic that has been on my bookshelf for many years. It has called to me over those years and I finally yielded to it’s call. I enjoyed it much. What a wonderful journey through the history of philosophical thought with a motorcycle journey and an intriguing story as the background and metaphor for these ideas. If you have never read this and this sounds like your cup of tea, go for it. ( )
  stevetempo | Jul 14, 2023 |
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One is tempted to call the book a psychomelodrama, for Pirsig's intentions are as extravagant as his themes. The attempt to triumph over madness, suicide, death in the self, of his son, for our world, by means of the patient exploration of ideas and emotions is certainly an extravagant ambition. That he succeeds in finding a plausible catharsis through such an enterprise seems to me sufficient reward for the author's perseverance, and ample testimony to his honesty and courage.
afegit per Shortride | editaThe New York Times Book Review, Edward Abbey (Web de pagament) (Mar 30, 1975)
 
Whatever it's true philosophical worth, it is intellectual entertainment of the highest order.
afegit per Shortride | editaThe New York Times, Christopher Lehmann-Haupt (Web de pagament) (Apr 16, 1974)
 

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Pirsig, Robert M.Autorautor primaritotes les edicionsconfirmat
Bacon, PaulDissenyador de la cobertaautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Hermstein, RudolfÜbersetzerautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Jonkers, RonaldTraductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
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And what is good, Phaedrus,

And what is not good -

Need we ask anyone to tell us these things?
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for my family
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I can see by my watch, without taking my hand from the left grip of the cycle, that it is eight-thirty in the morning.
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You want to know how to paint a perfect painting? It's easy. Make yourself perfect and then just paint naturally.
Live in the future, then build what's missing.
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At its heart, the story is all too simple: a man and his son take a lengthy motorcycle trip through America. But this is not a simple trip at all, for around every corner, through mountain and desert, wind and rain, and searing heat and biting cold, their pilgrimage leads them to new vistas of self-discovery and renewal. This is an elemental work that has helped to shape and define the past twenty-five years of American culture. This special audio edition presents this adventure in a compelling way-for the millions who have already taken this journey and want to travel these roads again, and for the many more who will discover for the first time the wonders and challenges of a journey that will change the way they think and feel about their lives.

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