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The World Inside de Robert Silverberg
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The World Inside (1971 original; edició 1971)

de Robert Silverberg (Autor)

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In 2381, the highly regulated life at the giant building known as Urbmon 116 may seem ideal, but some residents are experiencing dangerous dissatisfaction.
Membre:unclebob53703
Títol:The World Inside
Autors:Robert Silverberg (Autor)
Informació:Doubleday & Co. Inc. (1971), 184 pages Hardcover
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Valoració:****
Etiquetes:Science Fiction, READ

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The World Inside de Robert Silverberg (1971)

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    Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang de Kate Wilhelm (gaialover)
    gaialover: Dystopian society with controls against individualism and mandated polyamory.
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This is a somewhat fascinating, excellently written porn set in an extremely overpopulated, but relatively comfortable utopian paradise with buildings a thousand stories high.

Odd? Nah, it's the second Hugo nom of Silverberg in '72, being one prolific and focused writer, with too many ideas to cram into any single book, instead just exploring a few here and a few there, but doing it so excellently that the rest of the New Wave crowd just stares and stares at the grotesque sexual display.

Society has gotten very permissive now that all the problems of scarcity whether in food or space or power has been solved. And why not? Genetically, culturally, and, apparently, realistically, no one has an issue with staying inside these damn huge apartment complexes. :) J. G. Ballard has a great number of short stories that explore this whole idea, too, but we're not talking about him. We're talking about Silverberg, who takes it all the way down the sexual rabbithole.

Oh my, that sounds weird, doesn't it? No no rabbits were harmed in the writing of this book.

But where's the conflict, you ask? Oh, it's all in the 20th century deviancy, of course. Jealousy, desire to set foot outside, and the meeting of the throwback farmers that actually provide for all these permissive non-proletariats. :) What could go wrong? Oh, don't worry, no spoilers!

But like most of Silverberg's works, he's talking about us. Often harshly.

At least he always makes sure that the story is solid and interesting, too! :)
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  bradleyhorner | Jun 1, 2020 |
(Original Review, 1980-10-27)

Gee, Danny, I don't recall saying you don't enjoy sex, but, "please don't squeeze the Charmin!" More to the point, I found you missed the point of the "boring sexual encounters." [2018 EDIT: Daniel L. Weinreb, Danny for his friends, my American friend died on the 7th of September of 2012; so many talks through the wires, he in the US and me in Portugal, that would fill many posts if one day I’m willing to put them on "paper"…the first time I started doing stuff in Lisp in college he was there to help me out; RIP My Friend.]

To Wit:

"His sexual encounters are SO boring and SO devoid of any semblance of warmth or caring that I find them not just a waste of time but positively DISTURBING."

You see, that is precisely the point! "The Tower of Glass," and "The World Inside," both describe a FUTURE devoid of any really personal caring, and, consequently, sexual encounters are simply for the sake of sexual satisfaction - between consenting adults – and given the empty existence of the characters in the environment in which Bob portrays, "boring sex" just might not be so boring for THEM. It goes without saying, that one might find this POSSIBLE future very disturbing, and, if so, the "boring sexual" episodes have indeed succeeded doing exactly what they were intended to do.

And, of course, if Greg prefers to use as TP pages covered with detailed descriptions of boring sexual encounters, and apparently, shredded in flaming rage from the innards of a COVERLESS paperback no less, well, who am I to deny him such delights...shred on!

The careless sexual encounters in "The World Inside" (I have not read "The Tower of Glass" yet) would make a valid point about that society, if that were what Silverberg had in mind. But consider "The Stochastic Man". We are told how much the main character loves and treasures his wife, and so on, but the encounters are STILL the same. You might say this is to tell us something about the main character; could be, but as far as I can tell, Silverberg is ALWAYS like that. So it is my suspicion that he isn't doing it to make points; he just always writes them that way. I could be wrong, of course.

[2018 EDIT: This review was written at the time as I was running my own personal BBS server. Much of the language of this and other reviews written in 1980 reflect a very particular kind of language: what I call now in retrospect a “BBS language”.] ( )
  antao | Nov 9, 2018 |
Robert Silverberg joins J.G.Ballard, John Brunner (The Sheep Look Up, Quicksand) and others in the 1960-70s describing social dystopia where the only escape is death. This is certainly an intriguing story that was shocking for its time in the constant invocation of sex as the universal palliative for boredom---guaranteed to focus the attention of any teen reader. What's sad is that these authors couldn't find an encouraging ending or any potential way out of their visions. At least the characters are fairly well-rounded humans, rather than stereotype-caricatures, and they maintain sympathy in all of their internal struggles. ( )
  majackson | May 8, 2018 |
This is about sexual Licence in a Settlement composed of a single skyscraper, Urban Monad 116. It seems an example of the Gated community concept until we are told there are 75 billion people on the planet. This start to go wrong and large scale violence breaks out. Eventually the protagonists escape, and we leave them wandering, ill equipped to confront the world they are really in. ( )
  DinadansFriend | Jul 20, 2017 |
So...still looking for a particular book from my childhood (and with few clues)and I asked the Goodreads forum "What's the Name of that Book?" for help. Silverberg was suggested and while I'd already checked him, decided to check again. And this time I see this on the list, thinking, "Hey! I used to have that one." Quick check on Open Library, finding it there, I decide to reread it for my Year of Nostalgic Rereads. At first, I could remember nothing about it, which is quite surprising, because it should have been unforgettable. Imagine a teen in the 1970s reading this... It was salacious, and crude, and traipsed as science fiction! Forty years later, it's still salacious, yet now rather vulgar in many spots. And not particularly good science fiction. Yes, I know, Hugo nominee...but we know what those mean, and Farmer's book was far better, and...this curiously isn't listed on the Hugo website.

Others have said it's dated (drugs, free love, and overpopulation fears from the 1960s). Of course it is, which severely undermines any case for the timelessness of this particular science fiction. I think it was Silverberg's chance to mainstream sex writing. I was annoyed (as I usually am with such attempts) at Silverberg's use of odd terms to convey a distant future - sort of like tall, skinny square glasses on Star Trek. But I was more surprised as some of the incongruities in his short story. Without spoiling, one character refers to some as "priests" when the entire context Silverberg set up uses a term "blessmen". There are other instances that likely came from piecemealing this from other short stories and whipping it out at breakneck spped. Add in a religious imperative to procreate? He never answers the question as to why, relying, I guess, on a surreal "just because" alternative to the future as backbone. Nor does he examine why religion is the controlling factor in this bizarre future, given that they can manipulate minds and emotions into compliance - though he's probably right in that religion can be the maintenance drug to sustain the imperative.

And now to forget it again for another forty years... ( )
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