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Lucifer: Children and Monsters, Book 2 (2001 original; edició 2002)

de Mike Carey

Sèrie: Lucifer {2000-2006} (5-13)

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Written by Mike Carey; Art by Peter Gross and Ryan Kelly Picking up where LUCIFER: DEVIL IN THE GATEWAY ends, this trade paperback has Lucifer continuing his plans for a new revolution as he attempts to reclaim his wings from a hell not his own. And as this mission ends, Heaven, Hell and Earth all quickly feel the repercussions. Suddenly old enemies and allies such as the cabaret star Jill Presto, the hybrid angel Elaine Belloc, and the living Tarot deck known as the Basanos cross paths with Lucifer as he draws closer to the apocalyptic showdown that he desires and its resultant new chapter in the history of creation.… (més)
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Títol:Lucifer: Children and Monsters, Book 2
Autors:Mike Carey
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Lucifer getting his wings back. Mazikeen losing her face. Elaine learning who she really is. And to top it all off, the creation of a new universe. I really do love this series.

Much like Constantine, Lucifer's greatest strength seems to be that you never really know how much he's actually capable of. Carey gives very little emphasis to what, exactly, his powers and resources are. Sometimes reputation is all you need, which is how he can leave his gate guarded by two demons and a barmaid (and the void guarded by just a hungry baby) and get away with it. ( )
  jawalter | Nov 18, 2012 |
In Devil in Gateway, Lucifer got some kinda paper from the Silver City.  In this book, he uses it, opening up a gateway that draws people to his bar for reasons they don't fully understand, but more importantly, allowing him to travel where he needs to go next.  For you see, Lucifer has a plan... just not one that we are privy to.  In "The House of Windowless Rooms," Lucifer travels into the Japanese afterworld to get his wings back.

This is where I started to get bored with Lucifer.  Honestly, the premise that the universe contains innumerable different belief systems, all true, doesn't do much for me.  It worked in The Sandman, which often treated the idea fancifully, but Lucifer takes them all seriously-- and you can't take them all seriously, because they're not compatible.  I think it makes the story of Lucifer have a whole lot less impact if he's not rebelling against the Lord, but one of a countless number of gods.  Lucifer doesn't really treat them as belief systems, just complicated fantasy worlds into which our protagonist travels.  And our protagonist does not have to be Lucifer, he could jut be any old grouchy wizard and the story would be exactly the same.

The other reason that "The House of Windowless Rooms" didn't work for me is because it's the point where Lucifer's all-knowingness became too much.  To travel into the Japanese afterlife, he must travel as a mortal... but it makes no difference.  From twelfth page, where he blind the gatekeeper, it's obvious the despite being mortal, he still knows everything about everything and thus he's never in any danger. Plus, everyone he goes up against is dumb-- and that doesn't make him seem smart.  You just know he's gonna win no matter what.  What ever happened to suspense?

Meanwhile, his piano bar comes under attack from gross demon things, and this did work for me, since it felt like there was actual danger.  Mazikeen and the human waitress are vulnerable-- very vulnerable-- and so there was actually some suspense.  Also the sassy magician woman from Devil in the Gateway makes a surprise reappearance, and I liked her.

The second story here, the titular "Children and Monsters," brings back Elaine, the girl with ghostly grandmothers from last volume.  I liked her too, so it's a welcome reappearance.  Then there's a lot of strange mythological stuff and Lucifer knows everything about everything and the Heavenly Host invade Los Angeles, but turn out to be pretty lame.  Elaine made me care some, but I didn't care a lot.  It's kinda like one of those Star Trek or Doctor Who episodes where everyone is always talking about a ray and it doesn't mean anything because the ray does whatever it needs to at that moment, except with a gross version of a vaguely Christian mythology.

But, the ending.  Hmmmm... This was the moment where it became clear why this was a story about the Lucifer, and not Lucifer the Grouchy Amoral Wizard.  So I'm intrigued enough to keep on going, at least.

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1 vota Stevil2001 | Dec 17, 2011 |
Reading Lucifer almost immediately after Sandman really highlights quite how different a class Gaiman is in to Carey. Don't get me wrong, I love Carey's work. But a few things did jar.

Gaiman, in all of the Sandmand series, manages to leave it ambiguous as to whether the authority in the Silver City is the Christian god or not. With Carey it's very difficult to choose to keep that ambiguity. The other one that bothers me is the writing of the Japanese gods (Suzano-o-no-Mikoto's lot). The langauge is orders of magnitude too informal. Which, given that it was a key plot point in Sandman, is a little disappointing.

Having said that, I'm enjoying the story and looking forward to the other volumes. I did, in fact, break a lengthy embargo on Forbidden Planet today to acquire volumes 5 and 6 as I wasn't going to be anywhere near another comic shop for a little while.

The other thing this has brought to mind is that my entire perception of the Christian mythology around Lucifer is based on Gaiman's "Murder Mysteries", which is - let's face it - a somewhat unusual take. ;-) ( )
1 vota elmyra | Mar 29, 2009 |
Lucifer is on a similar quest as Dream is in Preludes and Nocturnes: Getting back what was his. This is an interesting trek to the Japanese mythology, and creates the character of Lucifer as a conniver well. He always keeps his words, but you better listen carefully what he says. :)

The best part of the book, however, deepens our relationship with Elaine Belloc. It is her finding out and coming to terms with what she is that grips the reader. She is human (partly), unlike most of the other cast, so it is easy to identify with her. She continues to grab the story from Lucifrer in the following books.

It all builds up to the bomb in the end, which just might be one of the big ones in comics history. :) ( )
  JapaG | Feb 11, 2009 |
I really thought this was much better than the first volume. The set-up and exposition of the first trade give way to the face-off between Lucifer and the hosts of heaven in this one. The storylines which are established in the previous collection are picked up and continued with here, with the writers managing to interweave them all with skill and lucidity.

The often surprising nature of the storylines in Sandman are continued in its spin-off, as well; I don't think anyone would have been ready for the revelation that a certain someone is actually the child of the Archangel Michael. The take which the authors have on heaven and its hosts have already been established in Sandman, but are continued here in a way that I'm sure a lot of people would find subversive, and even incredibly offensive, but which I really like. Lucifer is calculating and unpredictable and always compelling, with a plan that can only be described as ineffable and a line in snark that I really, really admire. The artwork in this is also a marked improvement on the previous TPB, and I think on Sandman as a whole. I'm really looking forward to being able to afford volume three.
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Written by Mike Carey; Art by Peter Gross and Ryan Kelly Picking up where LUCIFER: DEVIL IN THE GATEWAY ends, this trade paperback has Lucifer continuing his plans for a new revolution as he attempts to reclaim his wings from a hell not his own. And as this mission ends, Heaven, Hell and Earth all quickly feel the repercussions. Suddenly old enemies and allies such as the cabaret star Jill Presto, the hybrid angel Elaine Belloc, and the living Tarot deck known as the Basanos cross paths with Lucifer as he draws closer to the apocalyptic showdown that he desires and its resultant new chapter in the history of creation.

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