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De meeste mensen deugen een nieuwe…
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De meeste mensen deugen een nieuwe geschiedenis van de mens (2019 original; edició 2019)

de Rutger Bregman

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Humankind: A Hopeful History de Rutger Bregman (2019)

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Christianity presents humanity as fallen creatures with an inherent 'sin nature' which required killing all of them but one family and starting over. It didn't fix things though, because it didn't cleanse the sin nature. The Bible is full of rules and regulations to keep us in line. Eventually God had to kill his own son to somehow justify not killing all of the rest of us again.

This is the way most people, even non-christians, view humanity. We all have evil in our hearts, just waiting to pop out given the opportunity.

And yet actual history shows us that this is not true. Man is inherently good and requires manipulation to be otherwise.

All of this is a general rule, not an all-or-nothing proposition.

Summary: humankind is generally one of two different natures:

1 - Naturally evil, requiring oversight and manipulation in order to be civilized, or;
2 - Naturally good, requiring peer pressure and manipulation in order to be evil.

Rutger Bregman makes the argument for the second option, and it is a very solid argument. I'm convinced!

The book ends with 10 rules to live by, and I have found them challenging and intriguing. This book is staying with me and I think of it almost every day. ( )
  donblanco | Jul 15, 2021 |
“What if propaganda not only sows discord, but can also bring people back together...”

This line from the book defines the core of what I grasped from Brugman’s writing style. The underlying intent of the book is to make us aware that yes, in a certain sense, he is writing a "propaganda piece"; he is spinning the narrative to promote his new realism. He is speaking of alternate facts to well-known truisms about human nature (we are always one small step away from lie, kill, cheat, steal). He is claiming that its time to get real: by seeing our fellow humans as friendly, helpful, kind, and peaceful, and, by spreading this news to others in real-time, we can shape a new reality though what he calls new realism. "The war is over, if you want it." But it won't end until we actively participate in forming such a reality.

What is this new realism? If you have read his Utopia for Realists you might be familiar with proposals for a shorter workweek; basic income; open borders. In Humankind, he opens up our personal borders and allows us to let others in. There is very little sentimental writing or empathetic reasoning. His is a new realism, yes. And this realism is so surprisingly realistic that it can easily seem idealistic. And he backs up his words with deep research.

He provides ample evidence that it can work and does work. His alternate facts are such that debunk others’ spun facts (see the original version vs Brugman's version of prison experiments, Lord of the Flies, Kitty Genovese). Bregman even calls out historians such as Harari and Diamond for weak research points. Where they seem to take for granted certain historical accounts, Bregman gracefully calls out where stories are born and he rewrites these myths. And they seem all the more realistic as he provides ample evidence for his case.

This is one of Harari’s central tropes: that we tell ourselves stories. We heard it on the news, we saw it on YouTube and ... even if we don't believe it is true... we are still right in the midst of it. The stories we tell ourselves created money, society, religions. Bregman says its time to tune out from the stories others form for us, to tune out from the harmful news and online activity and tune into what is right in front of us. And, as Harari (though still vegan and trim and stoic) and kin grow larger in fame…certain storylines will be formed just as a canal is formed; some will be true and some will form into myth. Bregman is a tributary of these recent giants in intuitive-intellectual presentation and has this reader/reviewer interested in the streaming waters of this newly dug out waterbed. Thinking of making my home in his waters. The great thing about all of these streams is that they are all headed in the right direction. They swim against the waters, struggling to get upstream…once there, they reach new islands that promote a better vision. Bregman’s stories may also become mythic once he rises in popularity, and he is not without critics. But in a cosmos of cluttered, divisive thought, his hopeful history is a welcome one.

This life stance of trusting others, seeing innocence before guilt, avoiding sensationalist news, personal gain…this has been my point of view throughout my life. Yes, at times I have been dominated, cheated, left behind, left bereft. But it has always felt true to me…it just seems realistic. “to believe people are hardwired to be kind isn’t sentimental or naive. ..it’s courageous and realistic to believe in peace and forgiveness.” I have been afraid to speak this point of view, fearful that this realism is too idealistic for our times. Brugman has helped me to internally articulate this position of “new realism” …now it’s time to let others know too. ( )
1 vota DouglasDuff | Jun 21, 2021 |
Geschiedenis van de mens, en een blik op de toekomst ( )
  huizenga | Jun 5, 2021 |
Wat een mooi boek.

Rutger Bregman onderzoekt het basisidee dat de mens in wezen slecht is, met alleen een dun laagje vernis van goedheid, zodat het wel noodzakelijk is om hem onder controle te houden.

Hij bekijkt een groot aantal argumenten en experimenten die dit moeten aantonen, van Hobbes tot Zimbardo, en laat zien dat de meesten iets anders aantonen dan wat ze zeggen aan te tonen. Hij onderzoekt waarom mensen, als ze in wezen goed zijn, toch in staat zijn tot afschuwelijke dingen. En hij geeft praktische tips voor hoe je iets kan doen als je de mensheid wil helpen deze goedheid naar buiten te laten komen.

Zeker het beste boek dat de afgelopen tien jaar is uitgekomen. Lezen! ( )
  wester | Apr 14, 2021 |
Na 100 blz (het boek heeft meer dan 500 blz.) had ik zo iets van "Je hebt je punt nu wel gemaakt. Ik hoef niet nog 400 blz. met voorbeelden." Misschien om het sowieso mijn mensbeeld is? ( )
  ArtieVeerle | Feb 12, 2021 |
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