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Follows the adventures of Paul Atreides, the son of a betrayed duke given up for dead on a treacherous desert planet and adopted by its fierce, nomadic people, who help him unravel his most unexpected destiny.
JonTheTerrible: The pace of these books are similar as well as the topics they cover: society and government. The science plays only a small role in both books but is present enough to successfully build the worlds in which the characters inhabit.
corporate_clone: It is difficult not to compare Dune and Hyperion, even though both series have major differences in terms of tone, style and philosophy. Those are two long, epic, elaborate and very ambitious sci-fi masterpieces where religion plays a key role. I would highly recommend the fans of one to check out the other.… (més)
corporate_clone: Both books are a subtle blend of science fiction and fantasy while being truly epic stories. Although Dune remains a superior literary achievement in my view, Silverberg's Majipoor series is a credible alternative.
themulhern: Young man with special powers and noble blood overthrows the established order through cunning and charisma. In the process he changes his people and then the rot sets in.
sandstone78: Similar tropes in the form of human computers and a native species capable of granting youth, and the powerful woman trying to breed a special child- The Snow Queen seems on one level a response to Dune, taking many of the same elements and twisting them around, while going in quite different directions in other ways.… (més)
d_perlo: So you have read Frank Herbert's Dune series and want more? Thy The Lazarus Effect, The Jesus Incident, and The Ascension Factor, also by Frank Herbert. This is his take on a water world.
I'm glad I finally read it. The complexity and completeness of the vision is impressive and absorbing. The ecological project and life-ways of the Fremen, the double-edged power that comes with foreknowledge of the future, the twists of political intrigue -- all fascinating.
However, I found the lack of imagination about the possibility of change in gender/power relations tiresome (the Bene Gesserit are powerful females, so of course they must be "witches," and really, all the ambassadors to the Commission of Ecumenical Translators are men?). I found the markers of the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen's evil nature (his fatness, his sexual abuse of young male slaves, his Russian name) to be rather embarrassing projections of mid-20th century prejudices. And I cannot help but wonder why so many sci-fi classics are so "medieval" in their language and aesthetics: thousands of generations from now we still operate under feudalism and have an aristocracy that we address as "M'Lord"?
Herbert's story that I'd really like to hear is just hinted at in this book: the Butlerian Jihad in which humans successfully revolted against "thinking machines." What was the world like when humans revolted? How did they organize? Who were their leaders? How did the humans defeat machine consciousness? ( )
I'm not going to rate this, because I didn't finish it, obviously. This is just one of those books that isn't my cup of tea because the pacing is completely bogged down in the first book by political intrigue, made-up fantasy jargon and too many characters to keep track of. I don't find that particularly entertaining, and there are definitely parts where it comes off as preachy and intentionally obscure. Maybe, Frank Herbert would have been a good poet. If you didn't get the memo this book is a pretty clear allegory for colonialism in the Middle East and the spice is oil, like it doesn't take a genius. I've heard that if you have seen Lawrence of Arabia, Dune is just Science Fiction Lawrence of Arabia. I read this because the movie is coming out like, tomorrow, and hopefully that is better. I started it, dnf-ed it and then picked it up again and dnf-ed it again. I tend to have a problem with overly didactic science fiction that is meant to teach you something and writing that doesn't get to the point.
My favourite scene in the book - when Paul meets Gurney and takes him to Jessica, I love it. It's one of my most beloved books ever. I think I reread it several times already and I'll definitely reread it in the future. I simply don't understand why some people complain it's boring. For me - always five stars. ( )
I messed up my goal of reading 50 books in order to read this because I've been hearing I should read it for a decade. It did not disappoint. Dune>Star Wars ( )
Herbert’s creation of this universe, with its intricate development and analysis of ecology, religion, politics and philosophy, remains one of the supreme and seminal achievements in science fiction.
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A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows. To begin your study of the life of Muad'Dib, then, take care that you first place him in his time: born in the 57th year of the Padishah Emperor, Shaddam IV. And take the most special care that you locate Muad'Dib in his place: the planet Arrakis. Do not be deceived by the fact that he was born on Caladan and lived his first fifteen years there. Arrakis, the planet known as Dune, is forever his place. from "Manual of Muad'dib" by the Princess Irulan
Dedicatòria
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To the people whose labors go beyond ideas into the realm of "real materials" - to the dry-land ecologists, wherever they may be, in whatever time they work, this effort at prediction is dedicated in humility and admiration.
Primeres paraules
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In the week before their departure to Arakis, when all the final scurrying about had reached a nearly unbearable frenzy, an old crone came to visit the mother of the boy, Paul.
Citacions
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I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
Deep in the human unconscious is a pervasive need for a logical universe that makes sense. But the real universe is always one step beyond logic.
Let us not rail about justice as long as we have arms and the freedom to use them.
The thing the ecologically illiterate don't realize about an ecosystem is that it's a system. A system! A system maintains a certain fluid stability that can be destroyed by a misstep in just one niche. A system has order, a flowing from point to point. If something dams the flow, order collapses. The untrained miss the collapse until too late. That's why the highest function of ecology is the understanding of consequences.
The willow submits to the wind and prospers until one day it is many willows — a wall against the wind. This is the willow's purpose.
Muad'Dib is wise in the ways of the desert. Muad'Dib creates his own water. Muad'Dib hides from the sun and travels in the cool night. Muad'Dib is fruitful and multiplies over the land. Muad'Dib we call 'instructor-of-boys.' That is a powerful base on which to build your life, Paul-Muad'Dib, who is Usul among us.
"It's said that the Fremen scum drink the blood of their dead."
Darreres paraules
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". . . While we, Chani, we who carry the name of concubine—history will call us wives."
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If you are combining a translated copy please check carefully as in some languages this book was split into two volumes. In some languages there is a single volume edition and a split edition - you should only combine the single volume edition with the English edition. Languages known to have multiple-volumes: French, German,
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Follows the adventures of Paul Atreides, the son of a betrayed duke given up for dead on a treacherous desert planet and adopted by its fierce, nomadic people, who help him unravel his most unexpected destiny.
However, I found the lack of imagination about the possibility of change in gender/power relations tiresome (the Bene Gesserit are powerful females, so of course they must be "witches," and really, all the ambassadors to the Commission of Ecumenical Translators are men?). I found the markers of the Baron Vladimir Harkonnen's evil nature (his fatness, his sexual abuse of young male slaves, his Russian name) to be rather embarrassing projections of mid-20th century prejudices. And I cannot help but wonder why so many sci-fi classics are so "medieval" in their language and aesthetics: thousands of generations from now we still operate under feudalism and have an aristocracy that we address as "M'Lord"?
Herbert's story that I'd really like to hear is just hinted at in this book: the Butlerian Jihad in which humans successfully revolted against "thinking machines." What was the world like when humans revolted? How did they organize? Who were their leaders? How did the humans defeat machine consciousness? ( )