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Forever Amber de Winsor Kathleen
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Forever Amber (1944 original; edició 2002)

de Winsor Kathleen

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Abandoned pregnant and penniless on the teeming streets of London, 16-year-old Amber St. Clare manages, by using her wits, beauty, and courage, to climb to the highest position a woman could achieve in Restoration England-- that of favorite mistress of the Merry Monarch, Charles II. From whores and highwaymen to courtiers and noblemen, from events such as the Great Plague and the Fire of London to the intimate passions of ordinary-- and extraordinary-- men and women, Amber experiences it all. But throughout her trials and escapades, she remains, in her heart, true to the one man she really loves, the one man she can never have. Frequently compared to "Gone with the Wind, Forever Amber" is the other great historical romance, outselling every other American novel of the 1940s-- despite being banned in Boston for its sheer sexiness. A book to read and reread, this edition brings back to print an unforgettable romance and a timeless masterpiece.… (més)
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I am always interested in how my adult self reacts differently to books than my adolescent self did. I first read this book when I was about twelve years old and I am surprised none of the adults around me prohibited it. Probably because of my own innocence, I failed to see how very jaded this character actually was. For me then, there was this marvelous love she had for this man who was always just out of reach (I would mistakenly have said through no fault of her own).

What I took away from it this time was quite different. Amber is not a lovely or likable person, and Bruce Carlton is much more callous, but for much better reason, than I had thought. There is much to be said for he never lies to her. But, like her, he is willing to take whatever he wants and damn the consequences.

Toward the end of the novel, there is a passage which says, “But it was not enough, now she had it, to make her happy.” This, I think is the true theme of this novel. Amber is never happy with anything she gets, no prestige, no material wealth, no amount of admiration, nothing is enough for her. I suspect Bruce Carlton would not be enough for her either, but the fact that she cannot have him makes him seem like the ultimate prize. She does not understand him at all, while I think he has her nailed. He knows she is not evil, but he also knows she is amoral and insatiable.

I’ve done some things I hated, but that’s over now and I’m where I want to be. I’m somebody, Almsbury! If I’d stayed in Marygreen and married some lout of a farmer and bred his brats and cooked his food and spun his linen--what would I be?

Therein lies Amber’s problem. She sees nothing of what makes a person great or even good. She has no respect for any achievement that doesn’t show itself in the form of gold and property, and she does not know what happiness is. Her greatest misfortune is the one she knows nothing of: she was born to an aristocrat. Parents who would have married and raised her in exactly the world she desires never got that opportunity because of the civil war and the rise of Cromwell. She believes herself to be common and to have risen above her beginnings. Little does she know, she has in fact sunk far below her station, even when she is the whore of the King.

Finally, this is a very interesting peek into the court of Charles II, the great fire, the plague, the troubles of the restoration, the constant wars with France and the Dutch, and the rise of English imperialism. It is a period for which I have little frame of reference, so I enjoyed the historical aspects of the novel.

It is a long read, but it has a fast pace and Amber holds your interest navigating between her husbands and her lover. The most interesting character for me is still Bruce Carlton. He is cut from a different cloth than many of the men of his time, and he is the seed that produced America. I also love the character of Almsbury, who might appear to be minor, but reflects a balance that the other characters lack: he is kind, steady and capable of actually loving Amber, had he ever been given a chance. ( )
  mattorsara | Aug 11, 2022 |
A biography following a woman's life during the Restoration period, when Charles II became king of england.
Not all of the story is told from Amber's point of view there are various other characters mostly real people, some of it even from Charles II's viewpoint.
Amber is quite a dislikeable character which is a good thing as it makes her interesting, plus her personality is a creation of the times in which she lived and is necessary for her success in the male dominated time in which the story is set.
There is a BBC documentary call 'Harlots, Heroines and Housewives' talking about the various roles woman had during the Restoration and this book covers all of them.
Its a great historical/romance piece of storytelling and my score for it would be higher if it didn't feel a little disjointed in places due to the multiple points of view. I understand it was edited down from a much larger first draft. ( )
  wreade1872 | Nov 28, 2021 |
Forever Amber feels like a case of “don’t judge a book by its cover”… or by its Goodreads rating. Clocking in at 4 stars, this historical fiction about a woman making her way up in the a man’s world seemed like it might be up my alley… Unfortunately, I was mistaken. The protagonist, Amber St. Clare, is an unlikable character with few qualities to recommend her: narcissistic, capricious, and manipulative. She is a Restoration-era Scarlett O’Hara, minus the personal growth. Amber’s naked ambitions and careless actions lead to the deaths of at least five people and the misery of many others. The worst thing about Amber though is that she’s simply not interesting. Having an unlikable protagonist can work if they have some worthy quality to counterbalance their unlikability, whether it be intelligence, charisma, etc. Gillian Flynn, for example, writes fantastic female villains with agency:

“I’ve grown quite weary of the spunky heroines, brave rape victims, soul-searching fashionistas that stock so many books. I particularly mourn the lack of female villains — good, potent female villains. Not ill-tempered women who scheme about landing good men and better shoes (as if we had nothing more interesting to war over), not chilly WASP mothers (emotionally distant isn’t necessarily evil), not soapy vixens (merely bitchy doesn’t qualify either).”

Amber, on the other hand, comes across as the grossly incompetent colleague who somehow managed to fail her way up. Her only redeeming attributes are her looks. While beauty will get you far in the real world, it doesn’t work so well in literature. Even Amber’s resourcefulness is related to her reliance on the men around her. In the last quarter of the book, Amber does something remotely redeemable but too little, too late. Getting through the tomb of a novel (nearly 1000 pages in the Chicago Review Press edition) was a slog, and the one thing that kept me reading was the hope for Amber to either get some character growth or her comeuppance (à la “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn”). Suffice to say, Forever Amber was not my cup of tea. Your mileage may vary. ( )
1 vota hianbai | May 26, 2020 |
An amazing story of one woman's life and her survival in Europe as an independant. ( )
  VhartPowers | Dec 27, 2018 |
I don't know why, but I can't resist novels that have plot lines involving the plague... this one is a wonderfully cheesy historical romance that has the added cachet of having been banned in Boston. A classic bodice ripper. ( )
  LizoksBooks | Dec 15, 2018 |
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If, like me, you nursed a secret teenage passion for novels by Jean Plaidy, books in which men in britches seduced girls in corsets on horsehair mattresses, then here is some good news. This week, Penguin republishes Forever Amber, a big, fat tombstone of a bestseller that has been out of print for 30 years.
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Abandoned pregnant and penniless on the teeming streets of London, 16-year-old Amber St. Clare manages, by using her wits, beauty, and courage, to climb to the highest position a woman could achieve in Restoration England-- that of favorite mistress of the Merry Monarch, Charles II. From whores and highwaymen to courtiers and noblemen, from events such as the Great Plague and the Fire of London to the intimate passions of ordinary-- and extraordinary-- men and women, Amber experiences it all. But throughout her trials and escapades, she remains, in her heart, true to the one man she really loves, the one man she can never have. Frequently compared to "Gone with the Wind, Forever Amber" is the other great historical romance, outselling every other American novel of the 1940s-- despite being banned in Boston for its sheer sexiness. A book to read and reread, this edition brings back to print an unforgettable romance and a timeless masterpiece.

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