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Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid (1979)

de Douglas R. Hofstadter

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Douglas Hofstadter's book is concerned directly with the nature of "maps' or links between formal systems. However, according to Hofstadter, the formal system that underlies all mental activity transcends the system that supports it. If life can grow out of the formal chemical substrate of the cell, if consciousness can emerge out of a formal system of firing neurons, then so too will computers attain human intelligence. Gödel, Escher, Bach is a wonderful exploration of fascinating ideas at the heart of cognitive science: meaning, reduction, recursion, and much more.… (més)
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    Cryptonomicon de Neal Stephenson (Zaklog)
    Zaklog: Cryptonomicon strikes me as the kind of book that Hofstadter would write if he wrote fiction. Both books are complex, with discursive passages on mathematics and a positively weird sense of humor. If you enjoyed (rather than endured) the explanatory sections on cryptography and the charts of Waterhouse's love life (among other, rarely charted things) you should really like this book.… (més)
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    Logicomix: An Epic Search for Truth de Apostolos Doxiadis (tomduck, EerierIdyllMeme)
    EerierIdyllMeme: An obvious suggestion (surprised it's not here already). Both are creative and fictional riffing off of formal logic and incompleteness.
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    Metamagical Themas: Questing for the Essence of Mind and Pattern de Douglas R. Hofstadter (JFDR)
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    Incompleteness: The Proof and Paradox of Kurt Gödel de Rebecca Goldstein (michaeljohn)
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    A Mathematician Reads the Newspaper de John Allen Paulos (heidialice)
    heidialice: GEB is a thousand times as intense, but if you enjoyed the parts about self-referentiality it's worth a skim. Conversely, if GEB is just too much, Paulos' concise introduction to the theme is very accessible.
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    Things to Make and Do in the Fourth Dimension de Matt Parker (Lorem)
    Lorem: Things in 4D I consider a more accessible version of GEB in its breadth and how it does get to complex topics. If you enjoyed the more complicated parts of 4D, definitely look at GEB and if GEB was a little too much, 4D might remind you why math(s) are never boring… (més)
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    The Origins of Order: Self-Organization and Selection in Evolution de Stuart A. Kauffman (Rom_E)
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    The Gold Bug Variations de Richard Powers (hippietrail)
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    Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency de Douglas Adams (EerierIdyllMeme)
    EerierIdyllMeme: A few similar themes (Bach, human cognition) come up in similar ways.
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    A New Kind of Science de Stephen Wolfram (Usuari anònim)
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    The Flanders Panel de Arturo Pérez-Reverte (P_S_Patrick)
    P_S_Patrick: Arturo Perez-Reverte has recieved inspiration for his excellent mystery thriller from Hofstadter's Godel Escher Bach, even without some of the chapter introduciton quotes, that much is clear. He uses the bewildering Escherian theme of worlds within a world, Godels incompleteness theorum is alluded to in the monologue of one character, and Bach is discussed in relevance to the mystery too, along with a few miscellaneous paradoxes which are also slipped in, in a similar spirit in which they permeate the more complex non-fictional work. Non-fiction readers who have enjoyed GEB should be amused by the Flanders panel, and I think they should enjoy it even if they do not often dip into fiction. It would be harder to recommend GEB to fans of the Flanders Panel, due to its sheer length, but if you were intrigued by the themes in the story then it should at least be worth finding GEB in a library and dipping into it.… (més)
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I finally own bragging rights to having read this 800-page monster-of-a- book !

Interesting five-star concepts and interdisciplinary/multidisciplinary thought showcasing the work of the human brain at its finest ! The amount of puzzles also shows how much thought and time went into writing this book; it seems almost flawless !

However, it's long, repetitive, and borderline boring at times given the dry nature of the subject(s). It could've been easily summarized in 400 pages. And for that it loses a star (edit: this is a one-of-a-kind book and I've decided, five years later, to restore the missing star).

Still exquisite food for thought ! ( )
  nonames | Jan 14, 2022 |
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  revirier | Dec 13, 2021 |
Every few decades an unknown author brings out a book of such depth, clarity, range, wit, beauty and originality that it is recognized at once as a major literary event. This is such a work.
  Daniel464 | Sep 28, 2021 |
One could write a full dissertation on this book alone. What a monumental masterpiece! Exactly the book I needed to read at this time in my mental life. Thank you, Mr. Hofstadter. ( )
1 vota chrisvia | Apr 29, 2021 |
Hands down, the best book I have ever read! ( )
  LesKoller | Feb 17, 2021 |
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Hofstadter, Douglas R.autor primaritotes les edicionsconfirmat
尚紀, 柳瀬Traductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Feuersee, HermannTraductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Jonkers, RonaldTraductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Usabiaga, Mario A.Traductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Wahlén, JanTraductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
Wolff-Windegg, PhilipTraductorautor secundarialgunes edicionsconfirmat
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In its absolute barest form, Gödel's discovery involves the translation of an ancient paradox in philosophy into mathematical terms. That paradox is the so-called Epimenides paradox, or liar paradox. Epimenides was a Cretan who made one immortal statement: “All Cretans are liars.”
Whereas the Epimenides statement creates a paradox since it is neither true nor false, the Gödel sentence G is unprovable (inside P.M.) but true. The grand conclusion? That the system of Principia Mathematica is “incomplete”—there are true statements of number theory which its methods of proof are too weak to demonstrate.
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Douglas Hofstadter's book is concerned directly with the nature of "maps' or links between formal systems. However, according to Hofstadter, the formal system that underlies all mental activity transcends the system that supports it. If life can grow out of the formal chemical substrate of the cell, if consciousness can emerge out of a formal system of firing neurons, then so too will computers attain human intelligence. Gödel, Escher, Bach is a wonderful exploration of fascinating ideas at the heart of cognitive science: meaning, reduction, recursion, and much more.

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