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Written as an act of revenge against the 17 year-old who came between her and Jean-Paul Sartre, She Came to Stay is Simone de Beauvoir's first novel - a lacerating study of a young, naive couple in love and the usurping woman who comes between them. 'It is impossible to talk about faithfulness and unfaithfulness where we are oncerned. You and I are simply one. Neither of us can be described without the other.' It was unthinkable that Pierre and Francoise should ever tire of each other. And yet, both talented and restless, they constantly feel the need for new sensations, new people. Because of this they bring the young, beautiful and irresponsible Xavière into their life who, determined to take Pierre for herself, drives a wedge between them, with unforeseeable, disastrous consequences... Published in 1943, 'She Came to Stay' is Simone de Beauvoir's first novel. Written as an act of revenge against the woman who nearly destroyed her now legendary, unorthodox relationship with the philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, it fictionalises the events of 1935, when Sartre became infatuated with seventeen-year old Olga Bost, a pupil and devotee of de Beauvoir's. Passionately eloquent, coolly and devastatingly ironic, 'She Came to Stay' is one of the most extraordinary and powerful pieces of fictional autobiography of the twentieth century, in which de Beauvoir's 'tears for her characters freeze as they drop.' unorthodox relationship with the philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, it fictionalises the events of 1935, when Sartre became infatuated with seventeen-year old Olga Bost, a pupil and devotee of de Beauvoir's. Passionately eloquent, coolly and devastatingly ironic, 'She Came to Stay' is one of the most extraordinary and powerful pieces of fictional autobiography of the twentieth century, in which de Beauvoir's 'tears for her characters freeze as they drop.'… (més)
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Títol:Sie kam und blieb (German Edition)
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Aside from it being a racist book, it's a pretty honest look into the internal work of non-monogamous relations ( )
  amberluscious | Feb 11, 2021 |
And wanted to see how Ms de Beauvoir treated it in her fiction. Reading this semi-autobiographical novel did give me a look at a practical application of that philosophy.

Oh, and it's also a very interesting story. Francoise and Pierre have a deep and open relationship. They befriend a young woman (Xaviere) but their attempts to create a “perfect triangle” are unsuccessful. Partly because their philosophy doesn't align well with human nature. And partly because Xaviere herself is a narcissist – or maybe she's just young when most of us are that way to some extent. The depth of human emotions and motivations portrayed though the characters' iterations is fascinating to watch. Through the novel, we see Francoise change from someone devoted to her partner and to a philosophy, to someone who comes into her own as a person.

So glad I read this. ( )
  LynnB | Jul 26, 2018 |
I kept noticing that Francoise and Pierre are always dissing Xaviere, most of the time behind her back. But the evidence that Xaviere reciprocates back to the evil pair is quite sparse. Or maybe I read too quickly through it to pick up on any of her comebacks.
But when they were all three or just two of them in the same room, Xaviere seemed rock solid in her comebacks. Whenever Francoise would say something really ignorant, Xaviere was always able to fend it off somehow.
I think whenever a pair who is strong decides to gang up on someone else, and the tricks are all secrets, that is the highest degree of degeneracy in the book.
Francoise and Pierre seem to take umbrage at every little thing that Xaviere says or does, so I wonder what their big problem is and why they can not live and let live. They need an object to attack because maybe they would be too bored if they could only analyse themselves.
I tried my best to understand the book in French, but maybe I will have to re-read it in English to get some of the nuances that I might have missed.
French or English does not matter, I think by the time I got to the last 5 pages or so, something extra super nasty was happening.
I think someone should have warned Xaviere to go to a community drop in centre instead of however she met up with the two losers that latched on to her.
  libraryhermit | Oct 24, 2016 |
Starkt och välskrivet. Vackert språk. Ska ju bygga på Sartres och Beauvoirs eget äktenskap. Ett udda förhållande där en stark person som Simone ändå känns väldigt undfallande. Men det skildrar tidsandan på ett bra sätt. ( )
  Mats_Sigfridsson | Jul 26, 2016 |
Una pareja de intelectuales "made in France" (mejor dicho, "made in Paris"), prototipo del progresismo europeo del siglo XX, que viven su pequeña y feliz historia de burgueses de izquierda en los meses previos a la II guerra mundial. No se sabe cómo ni por qué introducen en su vidita feliz a una jovencita provinciana, con lo que pronto se convierten en un trío. Incluso intentan (aparentemente) que ese grupito funcione. Pero la "invitada" es irracional, caprichosa, retorcida y, en general, no tiene muchas prendas personales. Pese a ello, los dos protagonistas parecen sentirse irresistiblemente atraídos hacia ella, aunque desde las pocas páginas tanto el lector como los personajes se dan cuenta de que esa chiquilla les a va destrozar la vida.

Creo que el principal defecto de esta novela es que, al menos en mi impresión, la autora se ha planteado una situación en abstracto y después ha querido construir una historia a su alrededor y siempre subordinada a sus planteamientos iniciales. Algo así como "¿Qué pasaría si...?" pero para eso uno no escribe una novela, sino un ensayo. Sé que, por lo visto, la historia está inspirada en vivencias reales de Beauvoir con Jean-Paul Sartre, pero eso no le quita nada de su carácter de experimento, al menos desde mi punto de vista. El caso es que los personajes se me han hecho increíbles (¿por qué no mandan a paseo rápidamente a esa "invitada" que, además de amargarles la vida, vive a su costa con todo el descaro?), salvo quizá algunos secundarios. Tampoco los problemas que plantea me han atraído demasiado, porque ya, a estas alturas, no creo demasiado en los experimentos, y menos los sentimentales. Solo me ha interesado la idea de incrustar en una existencia plácida y autocomplaciente algo o alguien que les desequilibra sin que ellos sepan muy bien por qué (me ha recordado al matrimonio de la película "Adivina quién viene esta noche", de Stanley Kramer), incluso aunque sean conscientes de ello.

En fin, dos cosas me han enojado en la lectura. Una, la obsesión por "hablar". En medio de tormentas de pasiones encontradas, a los personajes solo se les ocurre "tener una conversación" para solucionarlo; todo muy racional. Naturalmente, casi siempre es peor el remedio que la enfermedad. Y, la segunda, la horrorosa traducción, que llega a traducir literalmente locuciones y giros, y que se empeña en poner siempre "usted" cuando la autora utiliza el "vous", incluso en la cama, lo que al lector español resulta al principio risible y luego pesado. ( )
  caflores | Sep 27, 2014 |
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Written as an act of revenge against the 17 year-old who came between her and Jean-Paul Sartre, She Came to Stay is Simone de Beauvoir's first novel - a lacerating study of a young, naive couple in love and the usurping woman who comes between them. 'It is impossible to talk about faithfulness and unfaithfulness where we are oncerned. You and I are simply one. Neither of us can be described without the other.' It was unthinkable that Pierre and Francoise should ever tire of each other. And yet, both talented and restless, they constantly feel the need for new sensations, new people. Because of this they bring the young, beautiful and irresponsible Xavière into their life who, determined to take Pierre for herself, drives a wedge between them, with unforeseeable, disastrous consequences... Published in 1943, 'She Came to Stay' is Simone de Beauvoir's first novel. Written as an act of revenge against the woman who nearly destroyed her now legendary, unorthodox relationship with the philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, it fictionalises the events of 1935, when Sartre became infatuated with seventeen-year old Olga Bost, a pupil and devotee of de Beauvoir's. Passionately eloquent, coolly and devastatingly ironic, 'She Came to Stay' is one of the most extraordinary and powerful pieces of fictional autobiography of the twentieth century, in which de Beauvoir's 'tears for her characters freeze as they drop.' unorthodox relationship with the philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre, it fictionalises the events of 1935, when Sartre became infatuated with seventeen-year old Olga Bost, a pupil and devotee of de Beauvoir's. Passionately eloquent, coolly and devastatingly ironic, 'She Came to Stay' is one of the most extraordinary and powerful pieces of fictional autobiography of the twentieth century, in which de Beauvoir's 'tears for her characters freeze as they drop.'

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