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The Path of Daggers (The Wheel of Time, Book 8) (1998 original; edició 1999)

de Robert Jordan

Sèrie: Wheel of Time (8)

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Sequel to A crown of swords opens to find the Seanchan invasion force in possession of Ebou Dar.
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Títol:The Path of Daggers (The Wheel of Time, Book 8)
Autors:Robert Jordan
Informació:Tor Fantasy (1999), Mass Market Paperback
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This is the novel I stopped on a long time ago. The problems with this one make it... unbearable.

Despite being largely about the women, these women do, say, and think ridiculous things on nearly every page they are present. Even Cadsuane, supposedly one of the longest lived and strongest Aes Sedai, thinks about spanking all the time. I'm pretty sure many a fantasy could be fulfilled by the amount of spanking these women think about doing. And so much smoothing of skirts and hair pulling. Because you spend so much time with them, you can't help but constantly be reminded that Robert Jordan had literally no idea how to write about women. What was just the occasional WTF in previous novels happened on nearly every page.

Then, nothing happens. This can be done well. Seinfeld, after all, was a show about nothing and it was brilliant. Alas, this is not that. You could have cut this thing down to a quarter of its size and it still would have had filler. Then suddenly everything happens at once, in the final chapters: a kidnapping, battles, madness, betrayal. "The book should have just started here," you think, "and these pieces needed far more detail." And you'd be right. And then it's over. ( )
  illmunkeys | Apr 22, 2021 |
Ah, so this is the book that starts the extremely boring stretch. At times I felt like I was reading someone's diary rather than an epic fantasy novel. Readers spend more time in the characters' heads than they do actually seeing any action, and I honestly couldn't care less about what every person in the world is thinking.

Rand is by far the most excrutiating person to read about. Jerk Rand + the Seanchan is just not a good combination. Those battles are so boring, and Rand is just no fun to be around, however sympathetic you are of his many, many burdens. I read most of his sections with glazed-over eyes, and it was only my stubbornness that kept me from skipping his pages entirely.

Elayne FINALLY makes it to Caemlyn after several chapters featuring her thoughts. All that succeeded in doing was making me want to murder those Aes Sedai, Kin, and Windfinders. Seriously, that group had too many power-hungry women for any normal person to be able to endure. Sadly, her plot line is only going to get worse. . . .

We don't see a lot of Perrin, which is just as well because he spends all of his time trying to figure out women, with occasional thoughts about Masema thrown in there. Perrin would be so much more likeable by so many people if Robert Jordan didn't force us to dwell with him on his every thought.

Egwene's story is the only plotline of the book that actually interested me. It's fascinating to watch her earn her title of Amyrlin Seat, and it is immensely gratifying to watch Romanda and Lelaine be heeled in. Why are all Aes Sedai incredibly annoying? Anyway, thank you, Egwene, for providing us something worth reading about.

However, even though at times reading this book was a bit tortuous, I appreciated that events seemed to move along fairly quickly, at least in comparison to the last book. After the Bowl of Winds sequence was wrapped up, we see the effects only a chapter later (thunder building in the distance), and within a few chapters everyone is complaining about the snow. It was quite a relief to actually see the results of an important event take place immediately, and to not have people still finding out about it 3 books later. The weather, at least, doesn't have to be bound by WoT's incapability to communicate. Sheesh.

I've never heard of an author who forced his devoted fans to endure so much crap but who still managed to keep hold of a huge fan base. That mystery will forever marvel me. ( )
  AngelClaw | Mar 24, 2021 |
More positioning and less blow-out battles in this one, but still excellent. A lot of Egwene's development, which I love, but a sad lack of Matt. :( ( )
  Zoes_Human | Mar 6, 2021 |
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Title: Path of Daggers
Series: The Wheel of Time #8
Author: Robert Jordan
Rating: 4 of 5 Stars
Genre: Fantasy
Pages: 562
Words: 228.5K

Synopsis:


From Tarvalon.net & authored by Toral Delvar

The four rulers of the Borderlands form a pact for unknown purposes and take a huge army south. Verin uses what she knows of Compulsion on Aes Sedai prisoners to encourage them to swear fealty to Rand. Moridin demonstrates his insanity. Hanlon visits Mili Skane and sees Carridin killed. Mili also has Falion captured, and claims to have another Aes Sedai.

Nynaeve warns one of the Tower embassy about the Black Ajah and Moghedien, but is not taken seriously. The girls leave Ebou Dar with the other Aes Sedai, the Knitting Circle and twenty Windfinders, leaving Mat behind to look for Olver. After moving through the gateway, Aviendha sees Moridin, so she unweaves it. This is something the Aes Sedai, as well as Moridin himself, thought impossible. Elayne, Aviendha and Nynaeve look for angreal amongst the things found with the Bowl. They are told of Martine Janata, the last Aes Sedai to study ter'angreal, who was burned out twenty five years previously, despite being careful.

The group arrives at the retreat run by the Kin, where the sight of Aes Sedai faces causes panic. Alise manages to calm everyone down. They continue searching through the things found with the Bowl while waiting to see if anyone is strong enough to join the circle. They find three angreal.

The girls, along with the most powerful memebers of the Kin and the Windfinders, use the Bowl, with the circle led by one of the Windfinders. The Bowl unexpectadly draws saidin. It also causes the Power to behave strangely. The Windfinders try to keep the Bowl and one of the angreal, but Alise puts a stop to it.

The use of the Bowl has exhausted them all, but they have to flee when the Seanchan attack. Elayne makes the gateway to Travel and tries to unweave it as Aviendha did, but fails, and it explodes, destroying everything around it. Aviendha and Elayne decide to adopt each other as first-sisters.

One of the Kin is revealed as a novice who ran away seventy years previously, and another admits to running away almost three hundred years before. Adeleas and Ispan are both murdered, apparently by someone they trust. Elayne takes the palace and sits in front of the Lion Throne. She meets Dyelin, who says she will support Elayne's claim to the throne. Elayne amuses her by telling her of her plans for Rand.

Sevanna uses an Oath Rod on Galina to make her swear to obey her, Therava, and the rest of the Wise Ones. The Wise Ones tell Sevanna she is no longer in control of them.

In Ghealdan, Perrin sends Berelain to meet Alliandre. He rescues Morgase and her party, who are traveling under false names. Faile takes them into her service after Morgase learns of Perrin’s connection to the Dragon Reborn. Perrin again encounters Elyas, who advises him on living with a Saldaean.

Berelain returns with Alliandre, who swears fealty to Perrin and grants him all her lands and titles. He tells her she can rule for him as his faithful vassal. Perrin goes to meet Masema and instructs him to gather his people and go meet Rand. Masema is obviously mad. Faile is captured by the Shaido, but Berelain escapes.

Graendal is visited by Moghedien and a girl called Cyndane, who is stronger than Graendal in the Power. They tell her to go see Moridin. They turn off the lights, and, believing it a trap, she drops a web of Compulsion on them. She is forced to free them by Shaidar Haran.

In the Tower, the Aes Sedai deny the possibility that damane could exist. Alviarin continues to use the fiasco of Rand’s kidnapping to make Elaida give bad orders. She makes Elaida accept penance. Mesaana teaches Alviarin Traveling. The Ajahs are barely speaking to one another. Seaine and Pevara use the Oath Rod to force Aes Sedai they believe may have told a lie into obeying them. They discover rebel agents spreading rumors of Logain and the Red Ajah. They are interrupted by a group of Sitters, one from each Ajah. All but one of these swears on the Oath Rod that they are not a Darkfriend. The last, (Talene Minly), refuses, thus exposing herself as Black Ajah.

Logain leads a group of Asha'man to capture one of the parties of Aes Sedai who were intending to destroy the Black Tower. He bonds Toveine in something that resembles a Warder bond. One of the other Asha'man states Taim will not be pleased. Logain says he thinks Taim would rather he was dead.

Egwene has a dream. She learns an army of Murandians and Andorans plan to stop rebel Aes Sedai moving through Andor. She arranges to meet them. Lelaine and Romanda both demand that they be given control over negotiations with the nobles. Siuan believes she sees a pattern in the Sitters ages - they are too young. Sheriam is beaten by someone using the Power. Egwene uses the meeting to make public announcements that the Hall cannot overrule, such that women of any age will be allowed to become Aes Sedai and that the army is to wait a month where they are. She talks to Talmanes, who says he can feel Mat needing him and he wants to stay. He is going to try and help King Roedran unify the country. Aran'gar kills two of Egwene’s maids. Egwene horrifies Siuan by revealing she wants to free Aes Sedai of the Three Oaths.

Egwene calls a meeting of the Hall and convinces them to declare war on Elaida, which gives her total control over anything involving the war. They wait a month, and then Travel to Tar Valon to begin the siege.

Sorilea and Cadsuane agree to cooperate with regards to Rand. Sorilea teaches Cadsuane Traveling. Torval tells Rand of deserters and insanity amongst the Asha'man. Narishma is sent to fetch Callandor. Rand takes some Asha'man to fight the Seanchan. Rand is attacked by Illianers. Two of the noblewomen with him appear to be discussing whether or not to kill him.

Suroth has Liandrin as a slave and another Aes Sedai as damane. Rand captures damane and sul'dam. They proceed to a spot outside of Ebou Dar, where saidin is difficult to handle, and damane become ill. Bashere suggests retreat as they are heavily outnumbered by the Seanchan. Rand draws Callandor, but is unable to control it and Bashere is forced to stop him. Adley is killed. Rand and the Seanchan both withdraw.

Rand returns to Cairhien, where Dobraine is in charge. Merana and Rafela reveal the details of the Sea Folk bargain, which is not to Rand’s liking. He calms down when Merana reminds him everything was going in his favor until he left. Three Maidens give Rand a beating. Rand asks Cadsuane to be his advisor in Illian. She demands an apology for his rude behavior. She tells him Callandor is dangerous and shouldn't be used. He gets upset when he learns that Elayne tore his banners down. Sorilea brings five of the prisoner Aes Sedai, Elza, Nesune, Sarene, Beldeine and Erian, who swear fealty to Rand. Min sees visions around them, including one that they will serve him in their own way, Sorilea included.

He leaves the throne room just before it is destroyed. He sees Dashiva, Gedwyn and Rochaid in the ruins. They attack him. He survives the attack and they leave. Morr goes mad and Rand is forced to poison him. Rand tells Min that they are leaving.

My Thoughts:

You can tell this was one of the shortest Wheel of Time books, not only because of the page count of the book but because the synopis by good ol' Delvar isn't 7 pages long. It's only 3 ;-)

This was the first Wheel of Time book I read back in the 90's that I had had to wait for. I hadn't gotten into the series until Crown of Swords was released and I have to admit, I am extremely thankful for that. My recollections of this are of it being wicked slow and nothing happening.

How wrong I was. This ranks right up there with the first book in my opinion. Part of it is it is the shortest book and so Jordan HAD to make stuff happen. The Bowl of Winds fixing the weather? I had completely forgotten how that changed things everywhere so radically and so quickly. Going from an oppressive summer to a wicked bad winter in the space of a week or three? It definitely made things tough for the characters.

Jordan also pretty much shut Nynaeve up for the entire book and everything was better for it. While it didn't happen in Sanderson's ending, I'm beginning to wonder if Jordan was setting up Nynaeve to become one of the new Forsaken. Why else would he make her such a horrible person and on the same level, in terms of characteristics, as the other Forsaken? It would have explained a lot.

At this point the number of story threads is out of control. While I enjoyed the book, there is just too much going on and Jordan continues to introduce yet new threads. He's like a kid with a brand new glitter gun and is putting glitter on EVERYTHING whether it should have it or not.

Path of Daggers was originally published in '98 and I read it upon publication and then again in 2000 and again in 2011. Each time it has been a very different read and that says more about me changing over the years than it does about the book.

★★★★☆ ( )
  BookstoogeLT | Feb 19, 2021 |
The aspect I enjoyed most about this book in comparison to the rest of the series, which overall I find amazing, is the greater sense of accurate and true communication between the characters. Here we can see Rand's fallacies as he struggles with his followers and his friends, he is an imperfect being and I feel that is best represented by his struggles in this book. His growing insanity is to me strange as I see little hope for a positive end, which I know to be a forgone conclusion, with his mind in this state. Here also we see a veiling of truth that seems reasonable to me for the first time, this being the interactions of Morgase with Perrin Aybara. Almost never before have the moments that individuals lie seemed to make sense now finally one does. ( )
  JJBookAccount | Jan 23, 2021 |
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